I put in my 2 weeks notice with 50% more offer and to my surprise ibm matched the pay, significantly over 1 pmr for the band.
Anyone here accept IBM's counter?
Were you treated well afterwards or let go?
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I’m in a part of GBS where everyone who’s been here for >3 years has accepted at least 1 retention offer. The only way to get a pay raise at IBM is to bring an external offer. If reneging on an accepted offer is an option you would consider, you must not be exiting for a top tier company. You should accept IBM’s counter then use your higher pay pack to negotiate an even higher offer from a top tier company.
If you stay, IBM will s c r e w you.
If you go, IBM will acquire your new company and s c r e w you.
No.
It's true that i am super frustrated with internal processes but the work here seems more interesting, however if i am laid off in a year...
OP, do you have any dignity? You now know FIRSTHAND that this company has been underpaying you and you have an offer to work in (what must be) a better company and you're STILL considering working here?
You need to tell your mgmt chain to shove their counter offer up their a s s sideways; matching $ is a one of MANY factors at play here. IBM can't change all of the other systematic problems that you either don't list, or aren't aware of.
And, yes, these kind of counter-offers are common. On multiple occasions, colleagues resigned for greener pastures, and IBM made all kinds of concessions. Everyone replied with "too little, too late - bye", and all are wondering why they didn't do it sooner.
In a word, LEAVE.
My manager told me I should take the offer from the new company. It was more than what he got paid. 😂 he was also looking outside.
Utilization PIP 4 years later (because my division wasn't winning contracts, so they literally had no work) and the other company refused to give me another opportunity.
In my case ibm counter offer 10k over the other company. I still left because in my case was not all about money but the constant target on you back. Pip. Layoff. No projects. Was just sick of it. I could not be happier and I would have taken even less money
Not much life left in Systems and Sales. I personally would leave - there is much more future elsewhere.
I got a counter offer and still left. I've often wondered if I did the right thing, but then I realize I've learned more, got paid more, met more fun people and have stopped looking over my shoulder for the axe to fall. Basically life has been better since leaving IBM, and I'm in charge of my own destiny.
Remind yourself of the reasons you are leaving. If it's just for money and you love everything about IBM, then stay. If you want more out of life, run.
In my last 1.5 decades (before retirement) literally, the only decent raises I ever got were in cases like this. The key is: you must be completely committed to leaving. They can "sense it" when you're not. Pack up all your belongings and take them home and then give them the news. But you have to be 100% prepared to never come back. After a certain age/number of years, band level doesn't mean that much. If (a) they need you or even think they do and (b) no one is in any doubt that you can walk out in the next 10 minutes.
Systems and sales
@vld+1bTcO4kV can i ask which BU was this in?
I have known 5 folks who are in your situation All left as they felt IBM had taken them for granted. Here is where it gets interesting 2 came back after 2-3 years of being gone. Both got even more for coming back. After a year of being back both were laid off, so the chatter of being paid more makes you more vulnerable seems to be true.
What will you do bruh
Never accept a counteroffer, you're burning two bridges. Mgmt at IBM will treat you worst than beforw and you'll never get that gig at the other company again.
@uej+1bTcO4kV thank you I know about having a target on my back but didn't think about future increments. Well, the increments here are peanuts anyway.
Last year was different story because market wasn't this hot and there was no mass exodus which IBM cannot back-fill with similar experience.
@txi+1bTcO4kV you have no idea how desperate ibm is getting because of mass exodus.
Tbh i am surprised too but i would just ask you to get an external offer and see what happens instead of making a snarky remark.
I call B.S. No way IBM matched a +50% offer.
I left last year and when i put in my two weeks i didn't even bother disclosing my offer to my FLM because 1) i didn't think they will be able to match it, 2) even if they did there is simply no growth (for me anyways, in HW) so for the long term it will be a net loss.
However, from what i can gathered on here and blind, YMMV. Taking the offer will most likely put you higher up the on the RA list as you are now much more expensive, not to mention since your pay is now significantly over 1 PMR your future salary will be capped.