Most companies in NYC are postponing their return to the office until January 2022. No announcement yet to move ours from next week on 9/14?
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@6ehi+1cJtuYcU Why the sm--k down on the Texas panhandle? There are some really nice folks up there. They even have a free 72oz steak! Ge-z!
Yes, young and healthy people can get COVID and spread it, but a vaccine doesn't stop that from happening. Yes, they can die in rare occasions, but statistically speaking more people have died that are vaccinated than kids who are not. Fact.
The only rational argument you have against unvaccinated is that they are clogging the hospital systems. That may be true in certain areas. You know who else clogs the medical systems? Fat people so let's ban beef, sugar and alcohol. That's what we need is another prohibition damn it!
Point is, I don't really care what anyone else does with any part of their body. You want the vaccine, get it. You don't want the vaccine, don't get it, whatever. Just leave people alone. You really don't want the government mandating everything you have to put in your body. Think about the long term ramifications of allowing a certain few legislators to control what you have to put in your body just so you can feed your family. It's not a good scenario for anyone who isn't in power.
Your unvaccinated colleague isn't anymore of a threat to you than your vaccinated colleague. The only one risking anything is the unvaccinated person so just mind your own business. Not every unvaccinated person is Qanon. That is the problem with your type of mindset. You can't just agree to disagree you have to demonize to make yourself feel better. It is really very sad. Good luck in your cubicle.
Good luck to you and the rest of the herd. Long live your immunity.
The neurotics that are looking to now burn witches need to chill and take a breath.
With all of the uncertainty concerning whether one gets the vaccine or not please note:
Folks on both sides have real considerations over this and should be respected instead of descending to the vilest levels of tribalism with the myopic self interest and self righteousness. To all of the people that have been vaccinated, if it works, you are protected. When you take into account the natural immunity (which no one mentions) of the folks that have been sick, recovered and have their own antibodies, we are probably close (if not already) to "herd immunity".
To the folks that have not been vaccinated, taking into account valid considerations of if it is a true vaccine, does it work / why the need for multiple injections, religious objections, etc., continue to take precautions (masks) and be considerate.
With all the uncertainty all over the place on this, we need to be considerate and respectful of others, as the only think that has been proven with this once-in-a-lifetime pandemic, is that no one really knows anything.
- I’ve been working mostly from home for for more than the last 18 mos anyway but intend to return to work this week like everyone else.
- Just saying “science” doesn’t make what you’re saying scientific or factual.
I’m not in your Qanon Facebook group. Young, healthy people can contract, spread, and become severely ill and die from covid. They should be vaccinated.
- I know the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, but not wanting to spend three weeks dying on a ventilator doesn’t make me a mo--n.
- I’ve been and will continue to take precautions to avoid contracting and spreading covid, regardless of whatever you or the guy waving a “don’t tread on me” flag on the bridge over the highway thinks.
- To the other person who compared me to the Nazis—Godwin’s law, you automatically lose and get a one way ticket to the panhandle. The Texas panhandle.
- The unvaccinated are exacerbating and prolonging the pandemic in the United States, where free vaccines are widely available. And it’s not just they’re doing it, but they have to p* about it, too.
- If you think I’m acting morally superior, so be it. But I’m not one of the people making fun of a child for not wanting to ki-l his grandparents or plotting to kidnap a governor or any other such nonsense that’s been going on for the last 18 months.
I maintain my position that you can go to h* and go f* yourself, and I don’t care what order you do it in.
Wait, crazy person below, calm down , breath.
If your vaccine works, why do you care? Just explain that first? If your vaccine makes you superior why do you care what happens to the ill informed unvaccinated? Please, just explain why? Whether or not someone gets COVID doesn't change your life in any way.
Secondly, your vaccine is already old, out of date. It isn't protecting you anymore. Maybe it helps the severity, but you can still bring the virus home to your family, kids, people on the bus, the subway. You can get COVID and spread it so how does a vaccine help your moral superiority at the workplace?
Just admit you don't really want to go to the office because you will have to work. It's okay, we all hate working at AIG so not a big deal. Just stop being a mo--n.
AIG has chosen a return to work date of Sept. 14th vs. postponing until Year 2022 which would have been the safest and most prudent option for its employees and the firm. I guess AIG doesn't care about maintaining their talent. Companies are hiring in droves so it's a dangerous decision that AIG has made. PZ's tenure at AIG may be short lived with this ill fated decision.
To the crazy rant listed below. How about you direct some of that rage at your hero Dr. Fauci? It is now fact that the USA, yes your USA and your Dr. Fauci, funded the lab in Wuhan that manufactured this virus. Now we are supposed to trust the guy who created this disaster to fix it. It would go a long way if Dr. Fauci were removed from his post and replaced by a physician that the world can respect and trust.
But aside from your ridiculous beliefs that you are somehow morally superior because you got a vaccine. Consider that your vaccine has a shelf life of maybe 6 months. How is anyone going to keep track of millions of people who have to get a new booster every 6 months? Are we going to present our papers at various checkpoints around the country? There are also various mutations that are proving to be vaccine resistant. The medical community has never been able to manufacture a vaccine that cures a respiratory virus so thinking you are invincible because you got a vaccine if naïve at best.
Writing off a group of people because they believe differently than you is dangerous and counter productive. If you look at statistics, actual statistics you see that certain groups of people do benefit from a vaccine particularly folks with pre-existing conditions and the elderly. However, if you look at straight statistics, you know "science". There is little justification to vaccinate children or healthy young adults. With such a low mortality rate in these groups, the vaccine risks outweigh the benefits, but you don't want to hear that do you? No, you live in your world of morally superior vaccinated people.
You need to get some help or maybe move to China.
To all... Regardless of which side of this deatbe you're on, think about the inequity of this liberal federal mandate. If you're employed, get it or you're out of a job. If you're unemployed or illegal alien, not needed. In an age where anything short of equality for all is demonized, this administration is mandating only for employed. Why not suspend federal benefits for the unvacanted unempolyed etc. Require for all or none. Postal workers exempt? Must be less than 100 or just liberals exempting thier base.
If the vaccine is as effective as we’re told, those who take it have nothing to worry about from those who don’t. Why else would the vaccinated need to be protected from the unvaccinated?
I’m sure I’ve seen this kind of thinking before in history books. I can’t imagine some of you loading up the train cars with the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated. It’s only a vaccination camp, you’d say. It’s for your own good.
Perhaps the next step should be to burn witches.
If the unvaccinated would take precautions to avoid infection and the spread of the disease, I would agree that they should not be demonized. But instead, they want to walk around like aholes, with a pair of thong underwear over their faces to prove what point I don’t know, in large crowds, argue about facts or play devil’s advocate, rely on internet memes for information, act mentally ill on airplanes, fill up the ICUs, and otherwise just spew disease of all kinds.
Oh the vaccine isn’t a miracle cure with zero side effects that never requires a booster. You must not be familiar with modern medicine. Perhaps your mother was a graduate of hog warts and so you’re used to your colds being cured with magic sand. Or here, take this cat spermicide and wander out into the desert. You’ll be fine.
This is what I think about being trapped in my house for the last 18 months. I hate it and I hate you. I think you’re an actual demon, and I’m about to call the priest. Go back to h*** where you belong.
Just like the great unwashed and unvaccinated, I can’t be reasoned with and I won’t listen to anything but what I hear on YouTube. You can’t change my mind with scientific studies, appeals to moderation or concern for others. It’s time to corral you all to Texas or Florida to live with all of your freedoms, and when climate change makes those places uninhabitable, well, don’t come crawling to me because you need a drink or can’t breathe underwater.
In the long run the vaccine mandate for private industry will probably be ruled unconstitutional. If so the RTO should be delayed until there is more clarity by the results from the courts as well as the vaccine's performance results. The shot alone cannot be the solution if you need multiple shots, boosters in 5 months and the unvaccinated pose a threat to the vaccinated, even if wearing masks. There is still much to be learned before anyone should be demonized (by either side) or mandates to go back to the office.
Folks have been working from home for the better part of 2 years now so it has not been a disaster nor should there be any need to rush.
He should make it clear that RTO right now is not mandatory, because it shouldn’t be, and for some people with insane management, it isn’t going to be. It shouldn’t be up to your boss.
People that aren’t vaccinated in places like the US aren’t allowed in the office. That’s defo going to p*** some people off, especially if they’re vaccinated and being ordered back into the office when they’d rather not but the unvaccinated people get to stay home without consequences.
Now—what’s going to happen with this vaccine mandate in the US that happened last night? Are the self-righteous going to resign en masse and save my job for another 3-6 months?
Can you imagine someone going on progressive levels of disciplinary action over this and then losing their jobs and being a Facebook hero, comparing themselves to General Lee or something? I bet about 1 in 10,000 people who say they’re going to do this actually will.
Anyway, see you at work next week.
Thanks for the memo today on returning to the office. It was extremely vague and straddled the line like all decisions at AIG. The confidence you portray in making ambiguous statements instills confidence in everyone around you. Nice job.
I don't think a return to office will last. There will be positive cases and quarantining right away. It won't work.
Don’t go. If they force you cite a medical or a religious reason. Never going to an AIG office ever in my life.