Thread regarding Sears layoffs

Someone please explain this statement from Sears PR

So I've been reading this odd statement, recently, from the PR guy at Sears (I don't think I am allowed to write names here, but y'all can figure out who he is).

In article after article, he is making this comment on each store closing: Transformco said in a statement that its "go-forward store strategy for Sears and Kmart is to operate a diversified portfolio consisting of a small number of larger, premier stores with a larger number of small format stores."

One of the closing stores is the Sears store at Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, Illinois, which Transformco said is "its last large department store in Illinois." The company said it plans to "redevelop and reinvigorate the property."

Transformco said it "will continue to expand both Hometown Stores and Home & Life stores in cities and towns that previously had larger format stores." It also is "very focused on growing sears.com and the Sears Home Services business.”

Also, from another article, Transformco, which owns Sears and Kmart, said it plans to “redevelop and reinvigorate” the Pasadena and Downey properties.

“This is part of the company’s strategy to unlock the value of the real estate and pursue the highest and best use for the benefit of the local community,” Transformco spokesman Larry Costello said via email.

Soooooooooooooo.....at least he is being honest and admitting that the larger format stores are on the way out. We Knew this, of course, but at least they're finally 'fessing up about it.

Also, at least they are being honest that Hometowns, Home & Life's, etc., will be what they will have going forward.

But my bigger question is this. Someone please explain this to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the current stores are leased, right? They don't "own" anything. As far as I Know, the last Seritage (owned) store ended circa 2020. So what the h3ll is Sears going to “redevelop and reinvigorate” in properties they don't freaking own? It's the equivalent of my leaving an apartment I was Renting, then on my way out, I am yammering about how I'm going to “redevelop and reinvigorate” the apartment that I no longer lease and no longer have jack sh!t to do with. Is it just me, or does the guy sound insane? It's like the crazy guy who gets evicted from his apartment, and he's walking down the street stating to everyone that he sees, that he is going to renovate and add a swimming Pool to the property he just got kicked out from. And everyone is like "OK, senile man. Whatever you Say, buddy".
Sears was only leasing all these properties. They don't (to my Knowledge) own ANY of them. So what exactly do they plan to “redevelop and reinvigorate” in some property they have nothing to do with? They might as well plan to “redevelop and reinvigorate” the Walmart down the road, because they have as much to do with the old Sears building, as they do with some random Walmart or any other property. Again, it sounds like some Drunk that you see in the Bar, going on and on, about starting some new business, and buying a private jet, when in actuality, he lives in a homeless shelter. Literally makes no sense, but the media keep printing his statement like it is somehow coherent.

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Yep, this Spokesman is literally that guy you see in any town, in any state, in any country, at 1 AM, alone at 1 end of a Bar, sitting there, Talking to his glass, convincing himself how great he is, and that he's someone famous and important. The Bartender just rolls his eyes and ignores him, because he's a "harmless" Drunk, who isn't hurting anybody.
LOL, I remember someone like this not too long ago. Once, when my wife were in Atlantic City a few Years back, we were just sitting in a Bar, having a Few, and this raggedly looking guy kept Telling anyone who would listen, that he is a famous Boxer who almost got the chance to take on Mike Tyson in the 1990's, and that he would have beaten Mike, but he's still going to come back and become heavyweight championship of the World. He repeated this story at least 10 Times while I was sitting there. It was funny the first few Times, then quickly got old.
Bartender just kind of winked at me, sort of meaning "ignore this guy....he does this every Day". This "future heavyweight champion", was, in actuality, probably some homeless beggar who managed to collect enough spare Change to come inside from the Cold and buy a Bottle Or 2.
That's what this Costello idi0t is doing. Just making up the same BS story and repeating it again, and again, and again, and hoping people are stup!d enough to believe it. We all Know Sears isn't opening anything, isn't redeveloping anything, isn't renovating anything. All they are doing is closing up shop, which is perfectly fine, but at least they should just admit it, instead of this whistling dixie nonsense. They have as much chance of redeveloping a property they vacate, as that Drunk guy has a chance of being a Boxing champion. But that certainly didn't stop him from making that claim to anyone who would listen.

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  • Sorry, I meant "to a non-Sears entity", below.
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Thanks, that makes sense. I had always thought that when Sears vacates a store, their lease is over, and the landlord just leases it to t anon-Sears entity and the connection with Sears is 100% broken. Apparently you're Saying that this isn't the case.

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Post ID: @1mua+1cX7X8hc

To use your analogy it's like leaving an apartment that you have a long lease on at below market prices then renting it to your friend for more money. They fix it up and invigorate the property. You take the high rent and pay the owner the original rent and keep the difference.

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Post ID: @1yoe+1cX7X8hc

the Pasadena store will e torn down. ///The land is very valuable. It is a stand alone store in a b=very expensive neighborhood

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Post ID: @1rra+1cX7X8hc

@vfy+1cX7X8hc Oh quiet, troll. The only stores closing are on SB 360's site. Look it up and don't ask to be spoonfed.

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Post ID: @itu+1cX7X8hc

Is Sears Closing in Hato Ray, PR

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Post ID: @vfy+1cX7X8hc

This 2 Minute video from a local news station explains the demise of this company well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHMvH2Al_I

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Post ID: @xbz+1cX7X8hc

@lfg+1cX7X8hc Excellent analogy. Whoever this PR clown is, he's just Talking through his hat. Don't Pay him any nevermind, and don't lose any Sleep over his remarks. They ain't "redeveloping" Jack. They don't even own anything to redevelop. Yes, he is exactly like that Drunk dude babbling about nonsense that everyone just ignores.

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Thank you for that. I didn't Know this information, so I Learned something new.

@lms+1cX7X8hc I don't see it on Sears' website, but there are a large variety of journalists mentioning it, so I would assume it's true:

https://www.kten.com/story/44759864/sears-is-closing-its-last-department-store-in-illinois-the-retailers-home-state

http://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_2669518421df5c5e89ab678f54aab396

https://patch.com/illinois/arlingtonheights/sears-closing-last-department-store-illinois-report

https://illinoisnewstoday.com/sears-will-close-its-last-department-store-in-illinois-home-to-retailers-chicago-news/375420/

https://californianewstimes.com/sears-is-closing-its-last-department-store-in-illinois-the-retailers-home-state/528674/

I could link another 100 such articles, but you get the gist of it it. It appears that this mouthpiece makes this same statement, whenever a store closes now.

As for which are the "small number" of premier large properties or whatever, you and I both Know what that means: Guam, USVI, and MAYBE Puerto Rico. I doubt any of the "larger" properties, stateside, will remain. But yes, I'm sure he will keep those Cash-Cows in Guam and USVI open as long as possible. Now, he might not keep ALL 4 USVI Kmarts open, but my guess is that at least 1 on each island (there are currently 2 on each) will remain open as long as he is able to do it, because of the absolute monopoly he has in those regions. I don't think Amazon Prime is really a thing in those areas as they probably don't offer free shipping to those remote territories, as they do in the continental U.S..

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Post ID: @gnk+1cX7X8hc

Good point that I think many of us have already thought about. If Home & Life was making any money for Eddy, he'd be opening more. Same with that MyGofer in Joliet Illinois 12 years ago. If it made money, being a reincarnation of Service Merchandise, there'd be more, instead of it closing in only a few short years.
Face it, NOTHING owned by Transformco is or ever will make money. The only reason the Hometown stores are around is because they are owned by the individuals in those stores. Eddie is all about reduced, or preferable zero capital investment. That's why the bathroom paper towels at Hoffman were reduced in size. Cut Cut Cut. The first post-merger CIO had a thing for everyone finding pencils that were still usable no matter how small and to stop ordering anything else.
You can listen to any of the spokespersons for SHC or Transformco over the years. Include Eddie in that. They are establishing a transformation to the greatest thing since sliced bread. Blah Blah Blah. Cut this and that. Nothing and we all know that is NOTHING with a capital N, reflects anything that is the future for Sears and Kmart. I flatulate every time they spew this nonsense.

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Post ID: @szx+1cX7X8hc

Also, if Home & Life is the way forward, why hasn't the company opened any more of them after the initial three in 2019?

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Post ID: @cxg+1cX7X8hc

I can't find the press release that these journalists are all quoting from, when I look on Transformco's website. If anyone knows where it is, please link to it here.

If the company wants to maintain "a small number of larger, premier stores ", which among the remaining 16 Kmarts and 19 Sears would those be? They have already closed the two remaining Sears Grands, Boyle Heights, Brooklyn, Woodfield Mall, the two Manhattan Kmarts, and others that would fit that category.

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Post ID: @lms+1cX7X8hc

You can see the properties TFCO is "redeveloping" at Transformcoproperties.com. Last count was around 220 available for sale, with another 100+ already completed transactions. A lot of owned properties were transferred from Sears holdings, and presumably this is much of the real value Eddie Lampert was after. Why they are continuing the charade of operating retail businesses in the large stores is something of a mystery. Maybe the properties are more attractive to potential buyers if they have something going on besides weeds growing in the parking lots.

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Post ID: @cko+1cX7X8hc

Update to my previous post: the lease on the Brooklyn Sears is up in 2047.

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Post ID: @jef+1cX7X8hc

Last I recall, the lease on the Brooklyn Sears was up in 2030ish. I assume at one time Sears owned this historic property and sold it off with an option to lease, at one point or another. Maybe the city is buying out the lease from Sears? Or maybe Sears is subletting it to them as a tax write off. We know eddy doesn’t do anything for the good of others, but he is definitely a su---r for a charitable deduction! Some of the original 425 “go forward” properties were owned (2 examples come to mind- Aberdeen, WA Sears & Burlington, WA Kmart). Both of these locations were severely under performing and were closed. The properties are still empty and Sears is currently shopping the properties to either sell or lease to anyone who will take them.

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@ebn+1cX7X8hc Thank you for that. I was under the impression that all non-Seritage stores were leased, so obviously, from what you're stating, that wasn't the case. So do you Know which current stores are leased, and which are still owned by Eddie Lampert? If what you are claiming is correct, then I stand corrected. I am curious to Know what properties are owned by Sears, and which are merely a leasing relationship. For example, I have read in some Brooklyn papers, that it is being considered to turn that soon to be defunct building into a recreation center for kids in Brooklyn. Now that is certainly a non-Eddie "thing", so would it be safe to assume Brooklyn was a leased (not owned) store? Because if the city of NY wants to turn it into some government run gym for underprivileged youth or whatever, that would have no connection to Eddie, right?

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Post ID: @clz+1cX7X8hc

This is a common misconception. Sears did not transfer all of its owned stores to Seritage. SHC held onto several properties, many of which included closed stores. Transformco having taken over a majority of SHC assets, took ownership of said properties. The whole thing, just like everything with Sears/Kmart is incredibly convoluted and confusing because of how tangled Eddie has made this joke of a business.

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Post ID: @ebn+1cX7X8hc

I've heard many-a-story like this, around 2 A.M., at various Taverns. I just let it go in 1 ear, and out the other. Don't give it much attention, man. This company is toast. This PR guy is just whistling dixie, and sugarcoating it.

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Post ID: @lfg+1cX7X8hc

Sorry, I just realized that the name of the Sears PR guy is in the quote I posted. I can re-post without it if you want, but it is a well Known person from Sears PR, so hopefully it's OK.

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