Thread regarding ADP layoffs

Surcharge in Benefits if not vaccinated

Read the corporate email of benefit information is available if new things to know . If you have benefits with ADP there will be a $50 monthly surcharge if associate does not show proof of vaccination.

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Post ID: @OP+1dbsmphi

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I didn’t realize there were this many d-mb people at ADP.

Unvaccinated people make up 95% of the covid-hospitalizations… that’s about the only metric I need to convince me that the vaccine works. If you’re turning a blind eye to the 95% and just looking at the 5% and saying “see! the vaccine doesn’t prevent covid” then you’re an id--t.

From a health concern, doing everything to encourage your workers to get vaccinated makes sense.

ADP’s health insurance is self-funded, that means that it costs ADP a LOT when someone gets sick from COVID. And I mean a lot. That cost needs to be offset by those who purposefully put themselves in that position, rather than raising the premium for everyone.

I haven’t heard any good arguments yet against the vaccine—only the same regurgitation I hear being spewed by my 5th grade level of an education grandparents.

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Post ID: @Sxoo+1dbsmphi

If the vaccine isn't to prevent you from getting COVID, then it isn't a vaccine. The original selling point of the vaccine is that you take the shot and that you are protected. Now the goalposts are being moved and new problems with the not fully tested vaccines making themselves felt with adverse reactions such as blood clots and heart problems. No thanks!

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Post ID: @Orzm+1dbsmphi

The vaccine is not to prevent COVID.. it's to lessen the likelihood of you getting really really sick

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Post ID: @Mcdr+1dbsmphi

Yes, it is hard to know either way. But the vaccines were meant to prevent getting COVID. Yet vaccinated people still get COVID. And it is not known for certain that they get well quicker from COVID than the unvaccinated. That is just wishful thinking.

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Post ID: @Jbez+1dbsmphi

To Post ID: @icob+1dbsmphi

I'm sorry that your stepson was ill with Covad. However, getting vaccinated may have saved his life. Hard to know either way. However, people that are vaccinated most often have less severe illness. I hope he is better soon.

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Post ID: @Gskj+1dbsmphi

Unfortunately, the COVID vaccines are NOT effective. People that are fully vaccinated can and do get COVID. My stepson just got COVID and he was fully vaccinated. And he has been very sick now for several days. The test confirmed that he has COVID. Again, he was fully vaccinated.

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Post ID: @icob+1dbsmphi

Vaccines are only effective when people get them. They could have possibly been the way out had more people elected to get them. Spreading nonsense online about how more people got COVID after the vaccines were available, and implying people should think twice about doing it is what has lead to people opting to not get the vaccine. And 90% effective is not 100% effective. Meaning people will still get sick, but far less likely than not being vaccinated.

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Post ID: @hwvd+1dbsmphi

But the vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer and J&J) were said to be 90% effective. The lockdowns were intended to slow the spread, but the vaccines were hyped as being the way out of the pandemic.

How many people died from COVID, as opposed to died with COVID? If someone goes into the hospital for heart attack and tests positive for COVID but doesn't survive, was COVID the cause or was it the heart attack?

Point is, the numbers no matter how you cut them are questionable. So how can any entity justify a mandate and then penalize someone who doesn't comply?

If ADP is collecting the $50, and it's not going towards your insurance or health care, then aren't they just pocketing the money just because they can?

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Post ID: @hdpg+1dbsmphi

In case you forgot, we spent the majority of 2020 in lockdown. Offices, restaurants, travel, schools etc all closed for the most part. That helped in slowing the spread. 2021 things started opening back up, cases rapidly increased. We have not reached herd immunity, and we aren’t even at 70% vaccination rate. People have stopped wearing masks, and are returning to normal life as much as they can. Those factors contribute to the increase in cases when comparing 2020 to 2021.

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Post ID: @feys+1dbsmphi

Correction #2: Total deaths in 2020: 366406

Bad day at the keyboard today

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Post ID: @fuaz+1dbsmphi

Correction: Stats can be verified at www dot worldometers dot info

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Post ID: @frwu+1dbsmphi

Is the surcharge something the insurance companies are doing and the company is passing the cost on to the employee, or is it a surcharge being charged by the company (probably to push the vaccinations for whatever reason)?

Just get the vaccination? To protect who? The numbers don't support it. All verifiable on infometers dot com. Yes, I am vaccinated but it was my choice.

Total cases in the US: 46092362.
Total cases in 2020: 20638812
Total cases in 2021 (latest date): 25453550

Total deaths in the US: 751811
Total deaths in 2020: 355406
Total deaths in 2021 (latest date): 385405

Since about 2/3's of eligible Americans were vaccinated with at least the first dose in 2021, then why are this years numbers higher than last years numbers when nobody was vaccinated? Don't get on the bandwagon to push the vaccine just to get on or because some talking head is hyping it. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. It should be your choice. If you believe the vaccine works, then get it and it shouldn't make a difference what others will do. The purpose of a vaccine is not to protect other people.

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Post ID: @fhvj+1dbsmphi

Getting the flu vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting the flu. But it helps to stop the spread of flu. Same as the Covid vaccine.

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Post ID: @dnqj+1dbsmphi

Next surcharge will be flu vaccine>surcharge type 2 diabetes> surcharge obesity and anything else treatable with a healthy lifestyle changes.

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Post ID: @dxoh+1dbsmphi

OK so where is the fine for not getting the flu vaccine or for coming to work ill? I worked for ADP for 32 years retiring 3 years ago. I begged people to stay home if y ou are ill. I was on the safety committee we put up stands where people could pull a face mask and get hand sanitizer. ADP gave the flu vaccine for free. We had a medical department and they came around with a cart to your desk offering the flu vaccine. Let's fine the people who don't get the flu vaccine 50 dollars. If someone has underlying medical issues protect yourself stay home. Getting the covid vaccine does not guarantee you won't get covid. As for getting a lesser case of covid, prove it. I know so many people unvaccinated who have not come down with covid or they got a very mild case. ADP is overworks their employees, runs them down and that is why they get ill.

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Post ID: @dped+1dbsmphi

Get Vaccinated, stop the spread. Stop listening to flat earthers on youtube who post junk "science" and think they are saving lives by literally putting you at risk. I know a hand full of people who were anti vaxx until they got covid and now they are begging to get the vaccine.

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Post ID: @6bdu+1dbsmphi

You get vaccinated to protect yourself. Whether other people get vaccinated or not doesn't help or hurt you. If you are concerned about getting COVID, then get vaccinated, and you are protected. As for what other people do, that is their choice.

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Post ID: @5gqt+1dbsmphi

So get vaccinated.
It is OK to help others.

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Post ID: @3sor+1dbsmphi

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