Thread regarding Follett layoffs

Vaccine Mandate

Anyone think Follett will comply with the upcoming vaccine mandate? Could give them an easy way to get rid of people and bring in lower paid managers. I’ve heard nothing about this.

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Post ID: @OP+1dhHi1LS

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John Wayne was quoted as saying, “Life is tough and it’s tougher if you’re stupid”. So don’t be stupid- get the vaccine.

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Post ID: @Dwkx+1dhHi1LS

How would we know? Ask your boss or HR, or make a post on FC. No one here knows any more than you do.

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Post ID: @ufhf+1dhHi1LS

So is Follett going to do the vaccine mandate or not. Time is running out

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Post ID: @ulzu+1dhHi1LS

For the people who don't understand. If you don't want the vaccine it is your right not to have it. It is your employers right to refuse to employ you because you pose a risk to the other people who work for them. You would be considered a potential spreader. You are a threat to their bottom line. You are a threat to the other employees who have agreed to the terms of their employment. As far as a precedent being set, I would invite you to look into DPT inoculations, Polio vaccine, MMR etc. BTW the word creature seems to have triggered some. By definition a creature can be human or animal.

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Post ID: @tczc+1dhHi1LS

For your safety, please mask. Please stay out of crowds. Please confine socialization to people you know and to people you know are safe.
Please stay out of the hospital, if you should get sick. You've taken a severe stand. Depriving others of needed services would be wrong.

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Post ID: @sdsk+1dhHi1LS

Don't you have to wait 2 or 3 weeks between doses and then two weeks before you are considered fully vaccinated? I know it depends on which one you get (I got the One Shot). I don't think that Follett can really afford to fight this, so they better get to it! I know someone mentioned it may be hard to enforce, but there are a lot of disgruntled employees that would tattle. I don't care that much if everyone else is vaccinated or not, but if they don't comply, I would imagine that regardless of status, everyone will pay the same, so that is what annoys me. I wouldn't be surprised if RMs and above use this as an excuse not to help out stores.

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Post ID: @omsf+1dhHi1LS

Maybe Follett isn't having 100 employees in January?

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Post ID: @nlil+1dhHi1LS

No, they won't. The NYC police union said 10,000 cops would quit rather than get vaccinated. You know how many actually did? 34. Turns out keeping your job is a pretty big motivator for people. That's why these mandates are necessary, and why they work. If you think this is going to bring businesses to their knees, with entire workforces leaving, you're delusional.

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Post ID: @njdp+1dhHi1LS

You’re a fool if you think things are looking up. What!? Vaccine mandates will bring our economy to its knees. You’re not thinking this through. Many truckers are going to quit which means more bare shelves and racks. That’s just one aspect of this.

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Post ID: @njcx+1dhHi1LS

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the unvaccinated will be let go. It's the right thing to do, and it's the smart option for Follett. I can't see how they could manage weekly testing for those refusing a free, safe vaccine. It's time to stop coddling these people. Things are looking up!!

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Post ID: @ninw+1dhHi1LS

Well it looks like January 4 is the deadline for companies with 100 or more employees to ensure their employees are fully vaccinated or face fines of up to 14,000 per violation. As I said previously, the winter is going to be horrible. The unvaccinated will likely be fired, making the current labor shortage even worse. Add to this, supply chain issues and a potential spike in Covid cases and we are looking at a real problem here for not only Follett but society at large. Not trying to be a doomsday person but I don’t see how this is a good thing mandating the vaccine.

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Post ID: @nkre+1dhHi1LS

Well it looks like January 4 is the deadline for companies with 100 or more employees to ensure their employees are fully vaccinated or face fines of up to 14,000 per violation. As I said previously, the winter is going to be horrible. The unvaccinated will likely be fired, making the current labor shortage even worse. Add to this, supply chain issues and a potential spike in Covid cases and we are looking at a real problem here for not only Follett but society at large. Not trying to be a doomsday person but I don’t see how this is a good thing mandating the vaccine.

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Post ID: @nnno+1dhHi1LS

If they're smart, they'll mandate the vaccine only. I can't see how they could monitor and enforce weekly testing. At last for vaccinations, you just set up a portal for people to upload their cards. Doesn't require much beyond that, and then they're in compliance.

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Post ID: @ldlh+1dhHi1LS

News is saying the mandate is coming soon. Will Follett do both the vaccine mandate and weekly testing for unvaccinated or simply give the option that everyone must be mandated?

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Post ID: @lhea+1dhHi1LS

Big businesses don't care about people, they care about profits. Yes, everyone should be vaccinated and wear masks. Nothing has changed there. Businesses would employ children and pay less than minimum wage if they could. They already offshore jobs to save money. Your iPhone was assembled by children in Asia for pennies. Big business is not your friend. So it's not surprising at all that they're fighting mandates. That's exactly why we need the mandates. It's very very very rare for companies to do the right thing unless they're forced, which is why we now have things like OSHA, the FDA, child labor laws, minimum wages, and many other things to protect both workers and the health of our citizens as a whole. Big business has always fought these things.

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Post ID: @knmd+1dhHi1LS

I saw many businesses are lobbying the Biden administration to wait until after the holidays to do a Vaccine Mandate for companies with more than 100 people. Not sure where it stands now. Seems hypocritical. They can afford to wait after the holidays to get those profits but this is supposed to be an urgent crisis in which everyone must be double vaccinated, double masked with boosters as well. Which is it? Doesn’t everyone need to be vaccinated to ensure safety? This administration and the corporations are all hypocrites. Vaccine mandates are going to further exacerbate a bad labor shortage and supply chain issues. Winter does not look rosy at all. Good luck everyone.

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Post ID: @kgxq+1dhHi1LS

I can't imagine anyone is going to hear anything until there's an actual mandate. And when there is, Follett will comply.

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Post ID: @dcsc+1dhHi1LS

I agree. People put anything in their body without batting an eye, but suddenly this vaccine is “no way” even though it was in the works for years. People take prescription dr-gs even though the possible side effects are a mile long. I honestly don’t get it.

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Post ID: @byiy+1dhHi1LS

Unvaccinated people are the plague.

You've lost the argument.

Non compos metis.

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Post ID: @9lyf+1dhHi1LS

Actions have consequences, why can't people understand this. You don't want the jab, you will have to find a position at a company that doesn't require it. Unvaccinated people are the plague. They have MMR, DPT and others to get into public school without blinking an eye. They put cr-p into their bodies every single day without batting an eye. Had a dude puffing away on a cigarette tell me he wasn't getting the injection because he wouldn't put cr-p in his body. Seriously? I knew that a good portion of the population was ignorant but this year has enlightened me as to how much I underestimated the amount

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Post ID: @9kzr+1dhHi1LS

Yes, I am condescending to uneducated spreadnecks. If you want it to be your choice to get vaccinated, fine. But it's Follett's choice to continue employing you or not. You can't have it both ways. Actions have consequences. If you wanna be a plague rat, so be it. But this company -- or any company -- doesn't have to allow you to jeopardize the health of its other employees or customers.

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Post ID: @9avq+1dhHi1LS

A medical exemption is not a religious exemption. May wanna work on your reading comprehension skills, sweetheart.

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Post ID: @9uxz+1dhHi1LS

Hopefully they won't allow religious exemptions.

Am I still living in the USA?

What about medical reason? You MUST get the jab even if it ki--s you!

The term mindless zealot comes to mind. My body, MY CHOICE!

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Post ID: @9wcg+1dhHi1LS

Hopefully they won't allow religious exemptions. Though, knowing Follett and their history of poor judgment, they will.

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Post ID: @9ach+1dhHi1LS

Looks like Biden admin still working through the specifics of the mandate and meeting with some companies on how to do this. I wonder if religious exemptions are allowed? I know of people who don’t want to get the vaccine as a result of religious reasons. I don’t see how Follett can accommodate testing every week.

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Post ID: @9vkz+1dhHi1LS

I just finished a freelance job with a very big toy company. You had to submit your vaccine card to HR by a certain date or you got the axe. It can certainly be done at private companies

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Post ID: @9kcw+1dhHi1LS

Yes, they'll have to come up with a way for people to either submit their vaccine card, or have folks get tested. It probably can't be something like a self-attestation, because obviously people will lie.

Now, the real question though, is who will ultimately enforce? Will SMs have to monitor staff and report them for failure? Or RMs? And who enforces this at the highest oversight levels? OSHA? They don't have enough staff to check every single large employer.

It's going to be a logistical nightmare. You'll also start to see a lot of lawsuits which will muck everything up as well.

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Post ID: @7ibl+1dhHi1LS

I thought the mandate, once finalized, would require any business with 100 or more employees to require their employees to get vaccinated or tested weekly? How does Follett enforce this? Submit vaccine cards or test results weekly?

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Post ID: @7mqu+1dhHi1LS

Anybody that has a contract with any government entity will have to comply with the mandate. We will eventually.

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Post ID: @7mka+1dhHi1LS

As far as I'm aware, there's not yet a mandate on privately owned companies regarding the vaccine and testing. It's only been certain sectors: government, Healthcare, and some others for now. I'm guessing Follett will not implement anything unless forced, and will tell stores to follow whatever their campus is doing. Though it does seem that a private company mandate could be coming anytime. So we'll see! Follett can't afford not to comply, so they'll definitely be doing whatever they need to to avoid legal issues or fines.

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Post ID: @7twy+1dhHi1LS

Any word on this? I thought we would have at least heard something by now. I’ve heard some higher up managers are meeting soon but not sure what about. I am not one of them.

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Post ID: @7hbg+1dhHi1LS

Getting vaccinated does not mean you are completely immune from ever getting a disease. It doesn't create a bubble around you that prevents germs from getting in. This is why masks are still important. It doesn't make you invulnerable. I'm not sure when or how you came under this assumption. Vaccines simply "train" your immune system to better deal with a threat. This is why vaccinated people are less likely to fail seriously ill, need hospitalization, or die.

I can't believe I'm having to explain to an adult how vaccinations work in 2021. Jfc.

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Post ID: @1qqi+1dhHi1LS

If you decide not to get vaccinated and get sick, companies are NOT required to pay for your time off.
Why not?
Sick is sick.
The vaccine works but everyone must wear a mask because you might get the the covid from someone that is not vaccinated. Then the vaccine DOESN'T work???
Natural immunity is 60 times more effective than the jab but it doesn't count and you must get the jab!
Science and data! Science and data! Science and data! Science and data! Science and data! Science and data!

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Post ID: @1ncj+1dhHi1LS

If you decide not to get vaccinated and get sick, companies are NOT required to pay for your time off.

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Post ID: @1wlz+1dhHi1LS

I'm guessing many employers are just going to let it slide, in a sense, because who's actually going to enforce it? How do they check that every employee is in compliance? And so on. The mandates are nice but unless they're actually enforced and monitored, they're rather toothless.

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Post ID: @1rum+1dhHi1LS

I do think it's weird that they haven't even mentioned the vaccine mandate yet and at least in Illinois I think has to be done by the 15th, so they should've said something by now. If they want to fight it, fine, but let us know so we don't accidentally blab. One reason they wouldn't say anything is that they do not plan to be in charge, so maybe something will go down tomorrow. It could be too that they just don't know Illinois mandates involving higher ed, or that they just don't care and/or don't think that they will get caught. If they do get fined, expect them to pay the only way they know how-staff cuts.

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Post ID: @cio+1dhHi1LS

I appreciate the fact that you took so much time to write that post, but you have to realize: most of these selfish spreadnecks are too far gone. They refuse to believe in the seriousness of this virus until they're intubated and their loved ones are starting GoFundMes for them. Anyone that wanted a free vaccine to protect those around them has had months to do so.

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Post ID: @sri+1dhHi1LS

Science. If you are going to spew "facts" make sure they are facts. Not what you read on Facebook or what Uncle Abner's girlfriends brothers uncle heard. Vaccinated people do help stop the spread of this virus. The vaccine is not experimental, a Covid vaccine has been in the works for years. Covid 19 is a new strain of the same virus so they were able to use the research from previous strains. Because of the refusal to be vaccinated the virus has had the opportunity to mutate. When you get a shot it is not just about you. You are helping to stop the spread of this ki---r. To bury your head in the sand until it hits someone you love is selfish.I buried a family member 2 days ago, before that I have 6 phone numbers of people who have succumbed to this and one of my employees had it and is still suffering from long Covid. Until people realize we need to work together to survive this people will continue to die. And if you do choose not to be vaccinated because you think it is unnecessary, please don't clog the ERs if you do get it. Don't use a ventilator, don't ask Drs and nurses to help you. Just stay home and hope for the best.

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Post ID: @kyw+1dhHi1LS

Future HCA winner right here, folks.

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