Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Vax Mandates

Honeywell has lost its corporate mind. They are firing people who refuse to give Honeywell access to private medical information, in violation of HIPAA laws. Litigation cost alone is going to sink them. Boeing and GE have smarter management. It's time to change jobs.

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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/covid-19-shot-or-test-regulation-to-be-withdrawn-by-bidens-osha

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https://www.wnd.com/2022/01/arizona-plan-make-employers-liable-complications-covid-shots/

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Post ID: @adqo+1eOSU8vH

A federal judge in the state of Texas blocked the Biden administration’s coronavirus vaccine mandate for federal workers on Friday.

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Post ID: @6yxg+1eOSU8vH

Definition of fully vaccinated is being changed to include COVID booster shot according to CDC.

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Post ID: @6dzf+1eOSU8vH

100+ year old SC decision :“there is a precedent, we have to follow it”

First and Second amendments: those were written a long time ago, things have changed since then”

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Post ID: @3igz+1eOSU8vH

The CEO of Reuters is on the board of Pf.izer...

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Post ID: @2rrt+1eOSU8vH

funny how people complain about a vax mandate but don't bring up the annual biometrics testing which is way worst. You can be fired/pay more insurance premiums for being a smoker or a fatty,

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HIPAA law has nothing to do with extorsion. Telling someone that they have to sumbit or be fired due to an unconstitutional executive order is just plain wrong.

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Post ID: @1han+1eOSU8vH

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SCOTUS was wrong 100 years ago to rule that anyone could be forced to take medical treatment against their will. Just like they were wrong in the 1857 Dred Scott vs. Sanford when they ruled that the Constituion was not meant to include American citizenship for people of African descent. The current SCOTUS would NEVER allow that nonsense to have any sway for their current rulings.

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Post ID: @1fsk+1eOSU8vH

HIPAA laws don't apply if you voluntary give the information.
Given that nearly every state is a "right to work" state now, you can voluntary give the information or leave the job.
You may not like it, but that is the reality today as most people don't work under any collectively bargened protections anymore.

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Post ID: @1uop+1eOSU8vH

A lot of employment related attorneys advertise on late night television. Those are actually the best. Make sure you work with one who is experienced with Honeywell by asking. They have "Honeywell" templates that they can cut and paste and modify to work the lawsuit. Honeywell will probably try to settle quietly. That's my prediction.

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Post ID: @1fly+1eOSU8vH

Sue them. If you have been personally affected, hire a lawyer and sue them. I left Honeywell voluntarily before all this madness started so I don't have a dog in this fight. But, for those whose liberties and financial well-being are being impacted by these illegal actions - don't be weak. Don't be servile. Fight! Use the courts and win your legal/moral victory. There are some constitutionally-minded lawyers who are taking these cases pro bono. Google it. You'll find the law firms.

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Post ID: @1qtx+1eOSU8vH

None of the Covidians seem to care that dr-g cocktails for (H)uman (I)mmunodeficiency (V)irus cost thousands dollars a month. If you want to talk about transmission, then 79% of the omicron cases are among the double & triple jabbed.

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Post ID: @1xhx+1eOSU8vH

Our nation was founded on the principal ideals of individual liberty and freedom from tyrannical rules. Before the politicization of the Wuhan virus and the unconstitutional Biden mandates I dare say that no company in the USA had ever thought of coercing their employees to choose between their jobs or an impotent and irreversible medical treatment. I dare say that no company in the USA had ever had the nerve to discriminate against and punish a subset of their employees by making them choose between their jobs or employee-paid weekly testing against their will. These choices are a direct as----t on our traditional American values that I believe most Americans and traditional American companies recognize. Many elitists and multinational corporations I think not so much. As Americans I say we should firmly resist and continue to petition for future laws against such intrusions and infringements. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Contrary to what a few posts here say, existing laws are being twisted and taken out of context and re-defined to match woke narratives. Sure people can quit and have and will, the company can make and have any such rules it pleases, but typically you are aware of the rules before you decide to work somewhere. This is a situation where very important rules are suddenly being threatened and made without sufficient warning, compassion, or grandfathering. If people want to mock and be callous and call evil "good" and call good "evil" that clarifies where your heart is at and whose side you're really on.

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Post ID: @1nbh+1eOSU8vH

You DO NOT have to get vaxxed, submit evidence of it, get laid off, fired or furloughed without pay. You can quit. Working at Honeywell (or anywhere for that matter) is not a right.

So many folks just don’t get that.

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Post ID: @1fkr+1eOSU8vH

@vto: Reading comprehension is obviously not one of your strengths, so me restate @ugj's point another way.

His point was tgat most problems that lead a person into a doctor's office have at least -some- behavioral component.

So, after you've driven out all the people who in your mind "deserve" their illnesses, there will no one left.

I have HW colleagues, by the way, who were on medication for high blood pressure for decades..then upon retirement they suddenly didn't need medication. What was their poor judgement? Working here and putting up with people like you?

Look up "dunning-kruger-type personality". My guess is you'll fund your picture next to the definition.

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Post ID: @1srb+1eOSU8vH

@lsa really... you're embarrassing yourself. Read up on HIPAA. No, really. On the proper website, not just what the "I know muh rights" crowd spews.

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Post ID: @1jmr+1eOSU8vH

Well then it is up to the customers to decide whether to continue doing business with Honeywell. The only way to quash them is to drive them out of business. The power of the consumer can go a long ways. Employees need to rally and tell customers to take their business elsewhere.

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Post ID: @qga+1eOSU8vH

@ugj then drop Hon insurine if you have it. I certainly don't want my rates to go up because of your choices.

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Post ID: @vto+1eOSU8vH

@ugj Sounds like you would probably enjoy a long trip on a short notice then. Around here, we have more people to consider than just you "I know muh rights" selfish types.
Submit or begone!

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Post ID: @nhj+1eOSU8vH

Some people can't see the forest for the trees. The real danger here is the further entrenchment of bad precedence.

As it is, HW literally demands blood to know if you smoke and fines you if you are too fat. So... you pro-vax Karens think a person should now be fined or fired for refusing the covid vax on the basis that "their behavior costs all of us more." Guess what? I can make that SAME argument about ANYONE who enjoys steaks and burgers (higher risk of colon cancer), to h@mosvxu@ls (higher risk of AIDS) motorcycle riders (higher risk of injury in collisions), to boaters (higher risk of drowning) and so on. While we're at it, let's fine or fire pregnant women! Pregnancy is a very expensive "behavioral choice" that impacts the company and coworkers alike.

How much control of your life does an employer really have a right to? My point is this: Either provide healthcare to your employees or don't... but my private life health choices are nobody's business but my own...

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Post ID: @ugj+1eOSU8vH

Hey Navin, Hopefully you are referring to "yo bad self" when you suggest that it's time to change jobs.

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Post ID: @dak+1eOSU8vH

Yeah, I'm only staying on long enough to join one or more of the lawsuits and then I'm off to a company that doesn't endorse fascism!

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Post ID: @xll+1eOSU8vH

Yeah, all this stuff has been asked and answered, in a legal way, by far greater minds than the trolls under this bridge. Over 100 YEARS AGO!
Nothing to do with HIPAA or "muh rights as a murrican" so sorry.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/mass-torts/articles/2021/winter2022-not-breaking-news-mandatory-vaccination-has-been-constitutional-for-over-a-century/

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Post ID: @gcr+1eOSU8vH

I've already discussed the HIPPA question with an attorney and her reply was: HIPAA law simply prevents your medical and/or insurance provider from releasing your medical records and other information relating to your personal health without your written consent with a HIPAA release form.

I was also told that HIPPA has nothing to do with a company asking you for your vaccination status. Also was told that since I live in an "at will" employment state that a company can pretty much ask you to provide the info as a condition of continued employment and if you don't comply they can legally terminate you with no recourse.

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