Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

How does the Nov 18 Pro-Freedom, Anti-Mandate Legislation affect Honeywell Clearwater?

On November 18, 2021 - Florida Leaders Support Pro-Freedom, Anti-Mandate Legislation
BRANDON, Fla. – Today, Governor Ron DeSantis was joined by Attorney General Ashley Moody, Senate President Wilton Simpson and Florida Speaker Chris Sprowls to sign legislation that protects Floridians from losing their jobs due to COVID-19 vaccine mandates.

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Protect-Florida-Jobs.pdf

Governor DeSantis and the Florida Legislature Deliver for Floridians

Private employer COVID-19 vaccine mandates are prohibited.
Employers who violate these employee health protections will be fined.
Employees can choose to opt for periodic testing or PPE as an exemption.
Employers must cover the costs of testing and PPE exemptions for employees.
Small businesses (99 employees or less) will face $10,000 per employee violation.
Medium & big businesses will face $50,000 per employee violation.

Government entities may not require COVID-19 vaccinations of anyone, including employees.
$5 million for the Attorney General to investigate complaints.

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There are none so blind as those who will not see

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Post ID: @fjbr+1ePALyCD
There are people not afraid of a vaccination that will gladly take your jobs.

Our ability to staff projects with qualified candidates indicates otherwise.
Let's see if a retention action happens in feb. That is the test of this position.

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Post ID: @2rtr+1ePALyCD

This is great news!

Free food at the cafeteria for life as a reward

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Post ID: @1kpq+1ePALyCD

Given that a federal judge has put the federal contractor mandate on hold, HI is doing this on their own, there is no mandate that will be enforced by the government. In Florida however, Honeywell's requirement is against the newly passed Florida law. But the wrinkle in this is that unfortunately the Florida AG is not enforcing the law; I have direct experience with it.

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Post ID: @1car+1ePALyCD

Everyone in the clearwater office will be fired and their jobs will be replaced by people in India or Mexico. Even before covid this was happening, the end strategy will be to have 2 or 3 offices(Atlanta/Charlotte etc) close the remaining US offices and move those jobs to either those US HQ offices or India/Mexico. It's pretty obvious if you been at the company for more than a year now.

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Post ID: @wuz+1ePALyCD

Don't be spouting off that Fla is protecting freedoms. Its legal in Florida to fire someone for getting vacinated. You all are just gullible pawns in politics designed to get you to take sides and donate money.

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Post ID: @bhx+1ePALyCD

"If you can't abide by the rules a company decides to set, find work elsewhere. There are people not afraid of a vaccination that will gladly take your jobs."

Oh ... good one! So witty! You got me! Since you are so brave and pliable with whatever anyone tells you to do then maybe Brandon can mandate a lobotomy for you.

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Post ID: @kuo+1ePALyCD

If you can't abide by the rules a company decides to set, find work elsewhere. There are people not afraid of a vaccination that will gladly take your jobs.

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Post ID: @vtu+1ePALyCD

Did Honeywell Clearwater put the unvaccinated employees without medical/religious exemptions on unpaid leave like they did here in Minneapolis?

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Post ID: @dvu+1ePALyCD

Read up on the "Supremacy Clause of The Constitution" notice "The Constitution".
You can't cherry pick what parts of The Constitution you support.It's all or nothing.
So if you love The Constitution, be ready to support it when your state mandates are shut down.

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Post ID: @lba+1ePALyCD

If you’re still working at Clearwater, you’re doomed anyway.

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Post ID: @mou+1ePALyCD

Best solution is for customers to stop doing business with Hon and force it out of business. Someone needs to publish a list of companies out there that are enforcing the mandate so consumers can decide what businesses to support.

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Post ID: @cnf+1ePALyCD

State nullification of Covidian fascism is leading the way...
"Following Florida & Texas, Virginia’s New GOP Governor Ends Vaccine Mandate for State Employees, Mask Mandates in Schools" 👍

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Post ID: @mju+1ePALyCD

You are right that employers can mandate this most likely.
It is also correct that this action will reduce the diversity of willing candidates.
Most impacted by this will be young women of childbearing age.
That demographic has consitently shown a reluctance to this sort of thing and we have examples in honeywell of that demographic choosing to leave.
I would prefer a workplace that is more diverse.

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Post ID: @grb+1ePALyCD

HoneyHell is not a healthcare provider, and is still subject to federal '64 CRA Title VII anti-discrimination laws, as well as state laws. Why do Dems still love discrimination and h@te the Constitution so much?

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Post ID: @rcl+1ePALyCD

The legal precedent is over 200 years old for a company to enforce mandatory vaccination on their own though. And it was upheld around 100 years later when it came up... and it will be upheld again if it comes up in 2022.

It's not a question of constitutional rights. The company has a right to make getting a vaccine a condition of employment. You have the right to work somewhere else if you don't like it.
Simple really. But go ahead and downvote it because that's what you do. It's hilarious.

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Post ID: @jbt+1ePALyCD

Agree. No matter what Honeywell chooses to do going forward the damage is done.
Failure to be sensitive and respect the diversity of employee voices will play out in business results for years. Many influential people are leaving honeywell to work at our vendors and our customers. Those people will be actively working to damage the brand.

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Post ID: @hcg+1ePALyCD

As stated in the last email, Honeyhell admits that certain state laws will apply to their exemptions and accommodations. State nullification of Brandon's edicts is the key for now in stopping them.

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Post ID: @tkc+1ePALyCD

Unless SCOTUS steps in, the Federal Contractor edict is not scheduled to be heard until the first week of April. Pureblooded constitutionalists may have to hold the line against the cult of Covidian fascism until then, before being able to file class action lawsuits for discrimination in unpaid leave, terminations, and employees paying for testing that HON666 is mandating. HON666 is the embodiment of evil.

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Post ID: @mrd+1ePALyCD

It doesnt. That had nothing to do with honeywell.
The federal mandates are currently stayed from enforcement. Most signs indicate that legal challenges will prevail... but honeywell has already done the harm to its employee base. Honeywell is likely to continue its enforcement regardless of legal outcome if only to avoid the perception of being wrong and implementing a rule that does more harm than good. Meanwhile GE looks to be more sensitive to reality.

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