Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Honeywell doesn’t give (2) s$its….

About you nor your family. You are a warm body. A vessel necessary to provide revenue. Period. We once drive our POV with our trailer to pick up an APU for a Gulfstream G550 that had been stranded at the FedEx hub on a Sunday. What did we get? Nothing. Gulfstream said, “great job.” No word from Honeywell. Integrity and ownership gets you absolutely nothing in this company. Get out. Get another job. Find a way out of the corporate assembly line.

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Aerospace as a cult

As far as I could see and understand, this division is/was a cult and its workers unaware cult members. I am not a part of it today, not sure if they have the same methods, as I’ve resigned years ago, but I’m identifying some of their manipulative ways I’ve experienced. The game is/was being played on a psychological level and the ‘golden cuffs’ as many call them are related to yes, remuneration, but mostly subtle mental entrapment. Since corporations as a whole can be defined as soulless machines, we may refer to this as psychological engineering. Some methods:

  1. instilling pride in the subject and thereby covertly inviting them to enthusiastically and quickly assume a new identity. The one dictated solely by the corporation, of course. Rewards, praises, recognition, internal awards, company events with name callings and certificate-handing, good and excellent reviews, all kinds of miscellaneous lip service coming from leaders…Costs them nothing, but instills great enthusiasm, eagerness and pride in the worker. The new assumed pride puffs the subject and gives them an entirely new sense of self. He/she is now proud to be a part of the machine. He/she now identifies with the greatness. And to keep the praise coming, he/she will forsake other aspects of their life to give it all to the company (read unpaid OT, extra work, emotional attachment and a sense of working for their own selves, rather than for an entirely different entity).
  2. Calling you a family member, thereby suggesting the idea of genealogical ties, and pushing a fake, deeper entrenchment on a psychological level. When I started in Honeywell, one of the aerospace VPs came to me and said: ‘You’re family now. We’re all family here and you’re our new family member’. Coming from an abusive, violent household myself, that took a whole new life turn for me. Here I was, with another chance at a new family that would finally love and respect me! Result: I’d bend over backwards to make the ever increasing targets, earn more recognition and every word of praise from the leader was sweet music to my ears. When targets started getting unachievable, I blamed myself and not the decision makers, crawling into a state of depression and guilt. Understand: the real family unit is based on UNCONDITIONAL love and support between members. A real sense of belonging should not be conditioned by how much money you produce YoY or QoQ for your family members.
  3. Manipulating the subject into forsaking his/her human identity to assume a new, corporate identity. Playing the political game, lying, gossiping, backstabbing to achieve the PIP imposed target or shift the blame for under achievement on engineered targets, crawling backs for a promotion, manipulating others for career advancement…one’s neighbor suddenly becomes one’s enemy in this corporate world. Treat others as you’d like others to treat you becomes Treat others in a way that proves your loyalty to your corporate masters. Dehumanization to become a corporate drone.
  4. You are given idols to look up to and emulate. Never ending rows of VPs and Ps are the example of what you, one day will be able to achieve with your career. And just like that, your corporate idols are born and promotion becomes the magic buzz world. They are the image paraded in front of you while you continuously and tirelessly run on your little hamster wheel which you call a career. If communists have personality cults, corporations have even stronger cults based on corporate roles and titles. Beware of corporate idolatry, it creeps up on you and before you know it, your dignity is out the door!

Finally, the trick of these methods is that they absolutely cost nothing, yet they are extremely strong at creating very dedicated workers who assume strong corporate identities. When you are let down or let go, and it hurts so much, understand why.
A word for those who describe what’s happening in the aero division as ‘evil’, ‘sadistic’ or ‘diabolical’: perhaps it’s greed, perhaps it’s manipulation, perhaps it’s bad leadership or perhaps it’s Ephesians 2:2.

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Post ID: @4mwk+1eUNcFXT

I agree leaders careless about one’s loyalty, commitment. If they not get their MIP or raise, worker bees are just “p… on” nobody. Don’t expect a “meaning” thank you from them. I leave in a heartbeat when there is an opportunity outside

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Post ID: @olg+1eUNcFXT

@000.
I'm the one who said I wouldn't do that.

I need to add something. At one time I would have considered that. But that was a long time ago. All that happens now are people ba----g on you to get something critical done. Most of time I find it is for their metrics.

When I have 12 folks doing that I'm rather immune.

I get why you did it for the customer. I just can't do it for Hon

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Post ID: @yap+1eUNcFXT

Who does Honeywell hate more?

1/ customers
2/ vendors
3/ employees

Always employees first. They aren’t worth anything. Just a big fat headache.

Vendor next. They should provide free parts.

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Post ID: @ngv+1eUNcFXT

What I’m saying is that there are people who will do that. Like me. Sure, it was d-mb. It stopped a four day line stoppage. Unfortunately, HW doesn’t recognize actions that go above and beyond. They’ll slap your a-s in a 5 block and expect that much more out of you. Bet if you fill out a form and send to HR asking to rename “White-Out” to “Mildly Caucasian Adhesive Strip” you’d get 8 Bravos and a promotion.

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Post ID: @ooo+1eUNcFXT

If the company really cares, and it does not, enough with our old office buildings with poor or no ventilation.
Just refurnishing a bay with some furniture is not exactly it
They don't, we don't care, nobody cares. Lol

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Post ID: @fgu+1eUNcFXT

Who does Honeywell hate more?

1/ customers
2/ vendors
3/ employees

Asking for a friend

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Post ID: @dep+1eUNcFXT

I do not get paid to use my personal vehicle to haul Hon equipment.

Nope, not a chance. They could rent a truck and I'd drive it. I'd be paid for all hours.

Of course, I also believe the ones that comment "you get paid" wouldn't use their vehicles to haul an APU either.

Especially if it was a Porsche...

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Post ID: @jao+1eUNcFXT

I wonder what your insurance company would say about putting an apu in your vehicle. D-mb.

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Post ID: @bzi+1eUNcFXT

Honeywell loves their shareholders, sees customers as a necessity to keep shareholders happy and hates their employees. Just resigned! Lots of talent is leaving this sinking ship which is all about financial engineering/ profitabilty nowadays.

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Post ID: @owu+1eUNcFXT

You didn't get nothing. You got to keep your job.

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