Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

You know there are plenty of other funds than HON in our 401k right? Its pretty easy to move your match to another fund as soon as it gets deposited.

HIPAA laws were passed so that people don't have to give private health information like HIV status to anyone, including your employer. HIPAA was designed to stop employment based on HIV status. But employment discrimination against a group of people based on private information that the company has no legal right to demand, is exactly what the mandate is all about. Discrimination based on religion, color, creed, or medical status is illegal.

Those of us at sites that were only covered by the OSHA mandate just got an e-mail today that the Honeywell mandate is being extended to all US employees, unless you have an approved medical or religious exemption. So no, the Honeywell mandate is definitely NOT going away any time soon.

@1wwf Yep, running neck and neck with legal wizards.

the company can fire you for any reason, you are not getting 1 year of severance, you will be lucky to get even 2 weeks. They have a ton of lawyers they know what loopholes will work. Looking forward to having all these Neanderthals leaving this site and actually be able talk about real issues with the company. The ones opposing it are the same ones that constantly complain how bad this company is but keep working at the company for years and years because they don't have any good skillsets and can't find any other job.

@1puy: Unfortunately, as an employee that lives in Arizona, I'm fully aware that the house, senate and governor of this state are all controlled by the Republican party. The bill you refer to does not have any chance of being passed.

AZ HB 2198 (currently in committee) requires private employers in Arizona to pay one year severance to employees terminated due to vaccine mandates.

Thats great news! Stop the jab. Get the Jab. Who cares. Now the layoffs begin before MIP payouts.

Honeywell will still do it because the highest aim of management is to be as unethical as possible without technically breaking the law. If they do break the law (which they often do) be it from asuing employees, dumping toxic chemicals into the environment or participating in various fraud schemes, Honeywell devotes considerable resources to their large team of lawyers to make sure the shareholders still get their moneys worth and the board still get their tens of millions for doing nothing.

Priorities.

If your state has a law that says you can't implement a vaccine mandate, Honeywell will not be able to implement a vaccine mandate in your particular state. Any by law I don't mean executive orders by governors (or presidents). I mean the legislation of your state implemented legislation. I have kept up with what states have done what.

So, for those who think the surcharge is a good idea for the unvacc. What about people that have had Cov. once maybe even twice, but never seen a hospital bill. Now let's monitor the vacc people, even the boosters people too for their 2022 hospital bills. If they get charged more than any unvacc, they must pay the surcharge going forward....hmmm think about that

HON Booster Mandate Already In The Pipeline For February!
"CDC Director 'Pivots the Language' on What It Means to be Fully Vaccinated"

Honeywell was not forcing the vaccines due to the OSHA mandate, it is following the federal contractor mandate. OSHA and federal contractor mandates are two completely different things. The OSHA mandate is gone but the federal contractor mandate is currently stayed.

HON can mandate vaccs if they want. And they have. Maybe they will repeal them, maybe not.

Don’t like the rules? Leave. That’s what I am doing. It’s much more satisfying and profitable than whining about vaccines on the lay-off all day. Some of you are so obsessed, it’s funny.

Honeywell can implement their own mandate regardless of court decisions. The "Fat lady" has not sing yet.

is it?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34383732/

Don't worry, HON is charging the unvaxxed more for their insurance.

But, why can't HON at least recognize natural immunity which is 27x more effective than the vaccines?

@kkd totally agree. I don't want my health insurance cost to go up because of someone that is unvaccinated that ends up on a ventilator for a month. That's on them.
You're free to choose not to get vaccinated, but then you have to live with the potential consequences.

I don't see Honeywell backing down. I'd be surprised if they did.

Honeywell leadership. If employees or family members who choose not to get vaccinated require expensive health care. Send them the bills. It’s not fair to make me pay for the failure to follow public health recommendations.

Honeywell is a private company they will do whatever they want as the do with the biometric screening for the fattys and smokers in the company. Looking forward to working with my new colleagues when the anti vaxxers will all be fired.