Thread regarding Macy's Inc. layoffs

Yes rank and file employees have the right to say no. This is America. A company cannot force an employee to do something that is not their normal duty. If a company does attempt to do this the employee can refuse and if the company fires them the employee can collect unemployment. Know your rights. Macy’s will try to intimidate you. They love timid employees who are afraid to question authority. You have a voice use it . Macy’s will only bully people who they know will take the bullying. Trust me they don’t hand me their BS.

The answer may be more complicated than it seems. First, did the store manager have access to the cleaning supplies? Today many of the cleaning functions are outsourced. Second, if the manager had to buy cleaning supplies, which budget would be used? Would the manager have to use his/her own funds? What was the time frame? Are union work rules involved? Finally, if the manager has to clean the restrooms, will rank and file workers be required as well in the future? Lead by example?

Why didn’t the executive clean the restrooms? An effective executive should lead by example.

I was a manager back in the early 2000s, during a visit, the store manager told one of the executives that the person who "cleaned the restrooms" called out sick, and that's why the restrooms were dirty. "Why don't you clean them?" asked the executive? A week later the store manager abruptly "retired".

Take your time. DO NOT let anyone bully you out of it. Denying once or twice might fly, but you have to put your foot down and let them know you'll be taking the next one. What are they going to do... fire you? You can't be spared, right? Take your PTO.

I love this site. Bro, I assure you I've never been part of the LT anywhere... but I've had a varied enough career and enough friends and family in management that I know exactly what to say to some of these posts. This week I've been called an HR shill, part of the leadership team, a member of the C-suite, sales weasel... I don't even remember what else.

No, those types don't generally read sites like this. It simply isn't a productive use of their time, and they are successful because they know how to use their time wisely.
Generally when someone takes the unpopular view here, and stirs you into a froth of your own tears... they never worked for your company a single day. They're just trolling... usually very successfully.

Don't talk to me about staying long enough to accumulate time.... I have over eighty hours of sick pay carryover I'll never get to take because of a-holes like you who expect me to change my schedule rather than use my time. The other poster is right, you ARE useless, because they can spare you, not me

Well actually it gives me great pleasure to know that you so called leaders read what is posted on the site.
How does it feel to know that the folks in the stores perceive you as useless?

In fact I have four weeks PTO with this organization. However you unethical people on the top do not allow us to take PTO this time of year. I guess that is because the stores can’t operate without us peon’s but nobody even notices that you useless regional and Senior leaders are off. 😂😂😂

Thus you now can understand how useless your position is😂😂😂

Aww... There, there little one.
Once you grow up and stay with a job long enough to have PTO you need to burn so you don't lose it, you'll understand.