What is very interesting is talking to a former manager who has left the company. Very different perspective. More honest for sure.
Bottom line: never trust your current manager.
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Who goes into the office?
Who goes to lunch at a certain time?
Who goes where?
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I trust my old direct manager. Wasn’t just trying to make me feel better. Others were laid off and their managers didn’t know until moments before either. You are right. I want absolutely nothing to do with my old team. I have zero respect for the top of the house over there.
As a manager I was asked to determine rating criteria to be used for who gets displaced then I was asked to use that criteria to derermine who goes.
Managers are nothing more than li@rs. This line of animal stuff abound not knowing is so the the others stuck behind won't dislike their inner parts.
@1duk if that is 100% legit and your manager was not just trying to make you feel better, then I would never want to work for your old team. I can see this happening on teams where extensive knowledge is nice to have but not 100% 'necessary' ie: "any butts in seats could do it." Not saying that to be mean, just stating facts. I'm used to being in IT and this is not the way it shakes out in areas of IT networks, security, systems engineers, software devs, etc... there are generally those 2-3 on each team you really want to keep if you can.
My manager was informed of my displacement moments before I was. Had no idea and was NOT allowed to call me (someone else did). My manager’s manager was only informed after 5pm the evening before, and was also not allowed to tell anyone either. So while some managers may know, in other cases, not even two levels up know until it’s already set in stone and they can’t stop it.
Managers are involved every step of the way. It usually starts with, "Ok who can you not afford to lose?" and goes from there, working with the more expendable fte's.
Of course they are.
I was always told it was a mathematical equation until it wasn't... like everything else at WF... it depends.
The decisions are made well up in the food chain and the managers are told who to tell to get lost.
This company like most others do not let managers manage anymore, they are just the ones delivering messages from above.
It depends. If it’s a mass layoff where a title or team is eliminated, no. If it’s run of the mill budget save, absolutely. This is changed from previous where managers had almost no say in either scenario.
Well if they have a top performer on their team and some deadweight…guess who they will go to bat for
So Answer is yes they will do their best to protect their good people as much as they can
Who goes to the bathroom?
Yes.
Goes as in forced severance? If not managers then who? Maybe I don't understand the question.