Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Oracle is not a place where you want to work and be mediocre

Oracle is not a place where you want to work and be mediocre. It is not a place where you should work if you need hugs from upper management just for doing your job (or even doing a good job -- that's expected). Oracle is not the place to work if you're a bit of a coaster and just kind of "mail it in" while some people around you bust their humps every day. But if you're the type of person who works hard to excel at your job, and you strive to be a positive leader on whatever team you're on -- you'll get promoted, receive more and more RSUs as you move up the ranks, and find that Oracle will reward you for your efforts. Perhaps some of the posters were hard-working, great employees, but I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the people who write about the company with such distain likely weren't one of those positive leaders. There's PLENTY to legitimately complain about at any large company. You can work through it or spend time complaining to those around you. Guess which category most of these posters fall into?

Nicely put, @djmr+1gdGnR1K.

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Post ID: @OP+1gr9Rdas

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Actually Oracle is not the place you want to work. Or anyone else for that matter. Simple as that.

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Post ID: @7cop+1gr9Rdas

With most of the performers leaving so long ago, explains a lot about todays poor performance and problematic undeveloped products. Past time to weed this overgrown undeveloped product development leader of corruptness. If Oracle doesn’t do it before the authorities then, unfortunately it will be more painful. Nobody wants that. Rules of law are made for all. The original inventor(s) have waited too long for justice.

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Post ID: @3rmy+1gr9Rdas

AxMan, o AxMan, please shower us with thy wisdom and thoughts on this problem.

You giveth all of us so much true knowledge and insight, so thy opinion on this matter is so sorely needed.

AxMan, O Axman, cometh thou and shareth thy informed opinions to enlighten the id--ts here.

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Post ID: @3fur+1gr9Rdas

I think the OP's comments were pretty accurate 20 years ago. Oracle was more of a meritocracy back then. It's not really that way anymore because most of the performers left years ago.

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Post ID: @2vgd+1gr9Rdas

To OP: laugh will you can. Someday you will be just like many others: despite working hard, getting pay rises AND bonuses (which IS RARE), then all a sudden due to politics at upper level, entire department get laid off, regardless of your performance, contributions or the enterprise need.

Gone through it twice, enough for me.

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Post ID: @2pem+1gr9Rdas

I would just add. Oracle is not a place to work for the future. Acquisition model brings with it very little opportunity for advancement. Only a lucky few will advance. Not based on merit but on not being an integral part of the current team. I.E. a non-essential employee that can be spared as they don't provide a critical skillset for the current product support. You simply just “work” for Oracle. You can eat the dog food if you like but it is just that dog food.

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Post ID: @1csl+1gr9Rdas

I used to work really hard, thinking that 2% was a good raise; it didn't even cover the cost of insurance creases and morning coffee. The last couple of years I got nothing. I stay on because I am old and nobody wants to hire old people in this industry. I like my work; it's no challenge and it's a lot less stressful once you realize that you're not going to get paid more to worry about the outcome. I've trained all of the younger people on my team, there's been a lot of them because they always leave for better paying jobs. Time for more coffee.

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Post ID: @kmk+1gr9Rdas

OP is either clueless or in orahole management. No they are not HR. HR doesn’t care enough to bother to post here.

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Post ID: @zsf+1gr9Rdas

I worked there more than a decade in marketing. Always great performance reviews -- when they were done, that is; there were many years that no one bothered because they were meaningless (as in no one was getting any kind of raise or bonus so why bother). But the reality is that performance reviews are done by your manager, and raises/bonuses/RSUs are decided up the chain. So you could get a great performance review at a time when raises and such were actually happening and still get nothing.

BTW -- I never received a single share of stock. Those were largely kept by people further up the chain. And that's true in a lot of non-tech areas there.

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Post ID: @ctr+1gr9Rdas

To the OP, now get back to work and work hard for your title only promotion, but please try spell your "distain" for the rest of us properly. Props to everyone working 2 hours a day for 8 hours pay to equalize the real effects of inflation over the last 15 years.

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Post ID: @kch+1gr9Rdas

Son, you stand on the shoulders of much greater men!

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Post ID: @fmq+1gr9Rdas

Let me guess. Attitude like that. A new MBA.

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Post ID: @piu+1gr9Rdas

No, Oracle is THE PERFECT place to be mediocre. All you need to do is know where and how to use your lips and pucker up. If you are really good are your work, you are perceived as a threat to those who are truly mediocre. I know of countless people who were exceptional at their work and were promptly given the boot at the first opportunity. Vendetta layoffs are a way of life at the big 0 especially when you are that much better than your mediocre but ruthless and ethically challenged upper manager/executive. Show them up, even inadvertently, at your own peril.

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Post ID: @ktn+1gr9Rdas

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