Thread regarding Verizon Wireless layoffs

After 2 month. No answers.

So after 2 months of trying to find out my individual targets are for my $200 "kicker", I still have no answer. Who in leadership can really think this is ok!!!
Am I supposed to just be happy when I get my "kicker" or would you actually like me to do my job and try to hit my "kicker".
This will be another lawsuit just like the overtime lawsuit.
These id--ts are out of touch and don't understand how to run a business, but they love telling me how to do my job, when these mo--ns couldn't walk an hour in my shoes.

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Post ID: @OP+1h1pZXOT

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I tink the reason people bring up lawsuits is cuz of anger and frustration they build up working for this company. Its easy for anyone to say "do us all a favor and quit" but what you really sayin is, your opinion don't matter, leadership is not open to hearing what you have to say, and we're never going to change anything to benefit you more than we do so shut up and do your job or leave. Which is fine i guess but don't expect employees to be happy, give good pulse scores, or be willing to put out the extra effort to sell. If you want yes men then you'll get them

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Post ID: @4owx+1h1pZXOT

@2avs+1h1pZXOT 100% percent agree with comments. The contribution reporting should be done at store level. Some stores do boomer tech support all day and don’t see as much in the way of actual sales. They also don’t take into consideration that some store teams slam like crazy. Why should my numbers be up against some specialist slamming esims ? What a joke of a company this has become.

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Post ID: @3mcn+1h1pZXOT

The problem that the below poster below fails to bring up is that the contribution system is flawed and not fair from one store to another. That is the sole reason someone mentioned a future lawsuit. One clear disparity is the actual store quotas. Why should an individual rep have a different quota from store to store when an hour of time is still the same everywhere? Why should a rep working in a larger location with a higher quota have to do anymore work or see anymore customers then a specialist in a smaller store? Now tell me again how the contribution reporting is fair?

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Post ID: @2avs+1h1pZXOT

No idea why so many people are focusing on the lawsuit portion of this thread that was kind of just said yes I don't think anybody was serious about this being a lawsuit, however thanks for your input employment lawyer

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Post ID: @2nly+1h1pZXOT

So i usually don’t throw things on here, but I feel like a lot of the comments on here warrant you hearing from an actual employment lawyer. I absolutely understand and am with you about your goals, about how you feel, and my advice is in no way me saying you are wrong in feeling any certain way. That being said… you have absolutely no standing (meaning there isn’t a lawsuit to be had) regarding your incentive pay, specifically the kicker. This is not a guarantee, but a bonus, and is governed under the laws, ordinances, and policies that it is formulated under. Each month, in agreeing to get paid an incentive (your commissions acknowledgement), you agree to adhere to and abide by those laws, ordinances, and policies. In doing so, you shield the company from lawsuits or claims each month. Some may think… ok, well I just won’t acknowledge my commissions then, well, then you are in an even worse place, as you also are stating that you are no longer eligible for incentives or commissions. Verizon still pays them to you, but should you decide to file a claim, Verizon can then counter for every dollar of incentive pay you have received when not acknowledging that commissions pay. You have no leg to stand on, there is no way to sue for this particular measure, and just because another company’s workers sued, you do not know or understand the agreement you had with their employer. The one Verizon has with each of us would have panned out the same way with regards to the surveys.

Just something to kind of clarify what I said earlier… yes… you can sue anyone for anything. You can sue Joe Biden because his tie was blue. It would be a waste of the filing fee because their is no standing. Most people have no understanding of the actual legal process. There are so many procedures and processes in a lawsuit and Verizon pays its attorneys very well. We won’t settle unless it meets certain parameters, and if there is no standing, as I mentioned earlier, that’s an absolute win for us from a legal perspective, we know that a judge will dismiss the suit in the first stage of pretrial.

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Post ID: @2ztb+1h1pZXOT

Hilarious you guys get a pip for bad performance bars whatever and if hans fails and bankrupts this company at least he's gonna be ok with the 40 million dollar golden parachute smh. ....all the while ur 401k is shot and they will ask for you to make more money so they can take and make more bad decisions with rinse and repeat

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Post ID: @2bii+1h1pZXOT

We had 2 of 20 in our multi hit 5 bars. All part timers.

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Post ID: @2mbp+1h1pZXOT

Not a single rep in our multi store pairing has hit 5 bars these past 2 months. Not a single “kicker”. Everyone is just trying to stay at 3 bars to avoid HR starting the pip process.

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Post ID: @2iqc+1h1pZXOT

How are you folks still unaware of how comp works? You can literally go to the PDF.

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Post ID: @1snb+1h1pZXOT

True. Its not really that meaningful or rewarding so don't stress if they dont want to buy overpriced insurance or accessories from you. $500 worth of rev is what $25? .... in a bucket?! Who cares

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Post ID: @1rbf+1h1pZXOT

"These id--ts are out of touch and don't understand how to run a business, but they love telling me how to do my job, when these mo--ns couldn't walk an hour in my shoes."

yes they are idi0ts and can't walk in your shoes but you're selling phone accessories and insurance NOT performing surgery or any meaningful work.

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Post ID: @1eis+1h1pZXOT

i am sure if you wait another 30 months you will get the answer your looking for.

t mobile is hiring if you don't want to wait for an answer i guarantee you won't like or understand.

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Post ID: @1bgc+1h1pZXOT

sorry bub lawsuits are for when a company does something illegal NOT for when you don't like the rules!

i am sure there are workers at mcdonalds that hate the rules and think a class action will "correct" things lol.

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Post ID: @1aco+1h1pZXOT

If you hate this job then leave. Go find that corporation that pays you perfectly and gives you everything you could want. Go. Please. Or, be grateful that you have the best benefits in the world. A company that will pay for you to get a degree and go somewhere else. The rep pay is not what it was 3 years ago! Good. Why should an entry level position pay more than a manager? Get real. Stop complaining. Focus on good or go find your dream job somewhere else.

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Post ID: @1uez+1h1pZXOT

I noticed that no one in leadership can tell me how much every rep makes when someone sells an upgrade. They all say, oh not sure, you have to do alot of math? Haha right. If everything pays us so little that we aren't allowed to know what it actually pays us then I don't think its worth trying hard for scraps. They want to act like this is still a sales job but its really just a clerk job with the added joke of receiving a goat pin award.

$200 is your incentive to work hard now I guess? I can not wait for the class actions

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Post ID: @1qbx+1h1pZXOT

So convince your coworkers to stop trying so hard and then everybody will be able to get five bars a lot easier. Kind of like a union for 5 bars.

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Post ID: @van+1h1pZXOT

The problem is the targets are based on how everyone else is doing in your role across the company and it changes daily. It’s the most ridiculous system ever developed and an insult
to any rep who actuallly tries.

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Post ID: @xhd+1h1pZXOT

They can't give you an answer to it because it's technically a sliding scale because it's based on the national average. So therefore it's always going to change depending how everybody else is doing. Is what I've discovered. However yes this will be the next lawsuit for sure I agree they narrowly avoided the RIS lawsuit, by the way that's still coming don't worry, but they won't avoid this one

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