Personal interests aside, I’m with Elon. The guy has guts to tell it like it is. Chevron should do the same to shut down the highly paid entitled lazy whiners.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/elon-musk-reportedly-tells-tesla-workers-to-be-in-office-full-time-or-resign.html
Fact: Chevron (and all other Houston companies) only agreed to 9/80 because they could take a 'pollution credit' for their employees 'not driving' once every two weeks. It wasn't a bow to employees or w/l balance. WFH will be the same way, Chevron will only agree to it if there's some federal mandate or social pressure. Proponents? Find some way to tie it to diversity.
Work life balance should not be allowed!!!!!! Wake up management!!!! You are not truly working until everyone is sleeping in the office and locked in. When we signed up to work that meant for life!! Our company needs us and we should be completely dedicated. Our family will see us if we have the audacity to retire.
If you are desperate to go do some face to face collaboration and can't stand being at home head over to the off campus site near the San Ramon office. Lots of other great guys there working hard.
100% the only reason people want back in the office is for the extra curricular collaboration that you must be face to face. If it was about the work everyone would be asking to stay home. Everyone is working hard thats for sure in the office. Either that or they can't stand their families.
@ptc+1h3mdgji Yeah progress is never made and we need to still work like the 1800s. Never make changes period. Now let me grab my abacus and parchment and get back to work.
Folks that want to go back to the office just want an excuse to get away from their families and visit their wh--es.
I agree the only place people can work is at the office there is no way anyone can work from home. I can't think of any year that work was accomplished and the company did just fine with people working from home. The company will go bankrupt without face to face interaction and all the collaboration. I agree with posters below I think people just want a different type of collaboration in the office they can't get at home.
@dbi, The thread is only hilarious for those who think that the actual value of their work is hilarious so the confirmation of them actually working is a trivial detail. Start your own company and let all the employees stay home and do as they please, as long as they say they are working. Come back and report to us.
Amazon is already pitching remote work to all Tesla employees who make the jump. The brain drain from Tesla is starting
This thread is hilarious. You can see the folks who are in favor of being in the office full time and are complaining about those “lazy” employees who want to work from home are also the ones doing all the upvoting/downvoting, most likely from the office where they pretend to work 40+ hours!! Hahaha!!
If Musk and other CEOs are in favor of return to office you know its not good for the rank and file.
You guys do know with 9/80s people still put in the same number of hours as people without 9/80s. Its not rocket science. Let people have some benefits. Life is not meant to be working non stop. Its how the boomers screwed up this country, thanks Ronald Reagan!
I think the people complaining about WFH and want to be up in the office honestly are just there so they can check out their fellow employees and if they get lucky go throw back some beers with them at the local bar. Nothing about actual work. How can you get with the secretary if everyone is at home? Get us back to the office!!! I need some face to face interaction.
My work group voted to WFH full time so the boss approved it. So far so good. Go to office is optional.
I suspect many of the WFH haters are all field workers who are jealous. Your work is important but your career choices mean you need to work on site. We do not so it so we shouldn't be forced in wasting valuable time commuting and with family just because you want us to feel your pain. Go back to college and change careers and you can work from home as well. Its not horrible giving more time with family than to a company that doesn't care about you!
“I’m sick of people dismissing remote work as “pretending to work” or “working in your PJ’s”. How about “not wasting valuable hours of your life commuting” or “being a part of your kids lives” - not my words but they resonated with me and I suspect many of our employees..
@trr Wow it seems like you should have been born before the 1860s. You would have enjoyed those days it seems. Heaven forbid people have more time for their families and life outside of work. We should all live for the company and put everything else aside as it doesn't matter.
The older generation needs to get with the times. If anything working in the office is less productive than at home. There is wasted time and energy with commutes, wasted time with water cooler talk that heck you can do on teams in you really want to. Other than management wanting to keep an eye on their employees there is no reason for return to the office. You can easily track employees based on their work. Get over the old fashioned need for time in the office.
Old timers still complaining about being in the office so they can spend hours BSing about nothing instead of working. Remote is the way of the future, like it or not.
@piu What’s different, you ask? Why don’t you read and comprehend? SMH
@trr, CTC already works 3 days in office, 2 remote. Not sure what's different in your idea? Though I'd be pleased as punch to have an extra day to get work done at home instead of dealing with a commute, people chatting socially in the hall next to my desk, and meetings that could-and would, if we were still remote- have been emails.
I'm just not seeing much uplift in technical discussions- we're all crowded around a single screen or projector image now instead of our own individual ones. I guess sketches are harder/less precise, but tbh I think we rely overmuch on the precision of back of the napkin sketches anyway.
Frankly, if Chevron is going to allow 3 days remote, they should take away 9/80 and require in office MWF. Everyone “works remote” on Mondays and Fridays. Why? So they can have 3 or 4 day weekends! Wake up and smell the coffee, senior leadership!!! This work/life balance cr-p has gone on too long!
Agreed! The “full remote” whiners didn’t hire on thinking they would be full remote. We should be very happy with the current model that allows only 3 days in the office. It affords be the flexibility I need.
Tesla will bleed talent