Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Let the EV tailspin begin at Ford. A $50B failed experiment.

Ford abandoned the car market because it could not be profitable in that highly competitive market segment. Farley is dreaming if he thinks Ford will survive with stiff competition and lower prices from companies like Tesla and when China will enter the US marketplace. Look at what we are charging for the Mach-E and Lightning.

Wake up Farley (not the same as Woke).

Ford is investing big money in EVs – $50 billion by 2026, in fact – as it plans to ramp up global production of those vehicles to two million units annually by the same date. However, one of the biggest obstacles that figures to hinder that goal are rising battery costs, along with rising costs in general, which have EV prices going in the wrong direction for mass adoption. Ford CEO Jim Farley does believe that more competition in this space will help drive prices down, however, a topic he touched on while speaking at the recent 2022 Alliance Bernstein Strategic Decisions Conference.

“So I believe there will be…our industry is definitely heading to a huge price war,” Farley said. “You’re going to start to see democratized EVs. Tesla’s talking about $25,000 retail price, so the bill of material is probably around $18,000. You’ll see that it’s already happening in China, half of all the EVs in the world are sold in China. And the most popular one is the Wuling $8,000 van. So it’s going to happen, but I believe that the answer will not be the lowest bill of material. It will be something that we offer, someone offers by the mile, by the week, by the day, by the weekend. And it will be optimized, not for purchase price because that won’t matter if you rent it. It’ll be optimized for the total ownership cost. When we solve for that, the product and the software experience is totally different than a Prius.”

Ford certainly faces an uphill battle in that regard, at least in the near term, as new vehicle prices continue to set new record highs with each passing month. In fact, Ford’s average transaction prices crested the $50k mark in May for the first time ever, while many expect raw materials costs to continue to rise for the foreseeable future as well.

Regardless, it’s clear that Ford remains committed to driving EV prices down, previously saying that it had set an internal goal of producing a $20k all-electric vehicle in the near future. At the same time, Jim Farley recent noted that he believes EV adoption will lead to an industry-wide consolidation among automakers, while he also thinks that The Blue Oval can make up for slimmer margins with the sale of subscription-based services.

We’ll have more on the future of EVs soon, so be sure and subscribe to Ford Authority for continuous Ford news coverage.

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@1imt
Not only does Ford not deliver on reliable hardware, when did we ever deliver reliable software? Somebody name one successful software written by Ford product.

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Post ID: @1wyo+1hdIdthh

Games like “Ford Roulette.”

Spin the wheel, will my EV start, will my EV burn, will the dealer have a fix or will I have to wait a Quarter or two. Just need a $50,000 ante for the “hardware” and let the gambling begin.

Not for me CarCar.

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Post ID: @1htu+1hdIdthh

I already have music, games and maps subscriptions through my phone that I use in and out of my vehicle. I definitely wouldn't pay another subscription fee for additional versions of those that could only be used in vehicle. Further, with our track record delivering the hardware (i.e., today's announcement regarding Mach-e), I'm not super confident that Ford will come up with music, games and maps applications (software) that will rival or beat the ones already widely available.

Besides, with your Mach-e sidelined, why would you need the maps subscription anyway?? SMH

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Post ID: @1imt+1hdIdthh

Yep, @urm is correct, there will be multiple revenue streams as it relates to electric cars. Music sub, check. Games, check. Improved maps, check. $10 here, $20 there. It adds up and it's all software.

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Post ID: @1cux+1hdIdthh

note that even apple's "primary revenue stream" is hardware. google & FB's primary revenue stream is adverts.

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Post ID: @daq+1hdIdthh

Here comes more of that "sizzzle." Thanks Jim. Please know that no one believes you and that Ford is crashing at your feet. Shameful end to an automotive legacy.

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Post ID: @umx+1hdIdthh

"Ford is investing big money in EVs – $50 billion by 2026"

True, but as has been stated before here in this forum and been cascaded to employees from leadership that data, software, subscriptions, services will be the primary revenue stream. Naturally, it is the vehicles that will enable this. But don't count on all the profit coming from just selling an electric vehicle.

There is much more to the equation that what is stated by the OP.

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