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Recommending Ford Products

Career retired employee here. How do others feel about recommending Ford products to family and friends? I feel like I no longer can. Sad that his day has come.

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I had a 1993 Ford Tempo that was super reliable. Very simple car with the 5 speed manual transmission. No air bags to throw shrapnel in your face. It had automatically seat belts instead of air bags.

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Post ID: @2udt+1hf1mhtL

agreed @phv+1hf1mhtL , i was gonna get a used Flex but started reading about v6 ecoboost internal water pump issues... at 100k miles or less sometimes. might still get one eventually, they say you should flush the coolant much more often than mfr recommendation and then it's less likely to grenade. and use the exact coolant specified (if anyone's interested) to avoid corrosion and degradation of the water pump gaskets. powerful motor, but needs some extra care for longevity. it's funny, the advanced computer design tools let them do stuff they would never dare to in the past (pump inside motor). complexity blowback.

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Post ID: @1gve+1hf1mhtL

Don't know that I would with the sharp quality decline. Had 2 Ford vehicles since working here and both had issues. After that I drive other brands. Coworker just bought a new F150 a few months ago and is having intermittent electrical issues. Dealer basically won't fix because they can't replicate. For the cost of a starter home, I'd at least expect the windshield wipers to not fall off, or the car to die on the interstate with less than 10k on the dash. And it's not like the employee plan gets any sizeable discount any more (of the dealers even let you use one)

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Post ID: @1gxj+1hf1mhtL

You can recommend them if they know how to replace a chain-driven water pump internal to the V6 engine before the coolant mixed with the oil.

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Post ID: @phv+1hf1mhtL

After what they did to us retirees with medical, I would never buy a Ford again. As for recommendations, how in good conscience, could a recommend a car that will surely be recalled over and over?

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Post ID: @icr+1hf1mhtL

Zero interest in a self-igniting vehicle that can burn my house down

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Post ID: @swv+1hf1mhtL

Agree @rdf. I can't in good conscience recommend because all of my family who used my plan regretted the purchase. I lost their respect because I thought one 1 out of 4 family might have a significant problem, but they all did to the extent of they will not even look. It is hard to say, buy one, its a 50/50 chance you will be happy. That is no way to build a brand reputation. From what I saw before I retired anything quality related was being dismantled, unintentionally, by diversity, inclusion, equity, and basically everyone be feel good programs. I did not feel good all the time. We worked very hard to get good products DESIGNED AND LAUNCHED well for 30 years. Hard work like it is supposed to be. Bringing in a quality guru is a sign of desperation that they just don't understand quality is hard, difficult, continuous work. Ford is asleep.
Now that I am retired and not driving into the office daily I am not so sure about my next vehicle as my Fords have been problematic, except the Fusion which so far is stellar, but of course not being sold now.

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Post ID: @uey+1hf1mhtL

If you can find one, recommend 2008-2011 Ford Focus. No garage queen but still looks decent compared to the botoxed auto design of today. Panned and scoffed at by some. Loved by those in the 200k mile club. Have had several and still have. 4 speed no nonsense auto and a durability proven 2.0L non turbo with 28mpg city and 35mpg non-city on a atomic clock regularity. No bull. They are not needy in the maintenance department. The one I half attempt to maintain runs significantly better than the one I pamper, convinced both are mechanically bullet proof. Rust states salt will get the rockers but they make replacements, easy to find and install. Most made are being thrashed by new drivers and people who cannot afford better, but all of us are smiling all the way to the BANK.

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Post ID: @zou+1hf1mhtL

I don't drive Ford; I don't recommend Ford. The last two times I bought a vehicle (not a truck), I considered the Ford line up. The first time I found cheaper and better offers elsewhere. The last time (recently) I was aware of dealers not honoring the A&Z Plans, subpar quality and delays in the vehicle delivery. I looked elsewhere and the few friends that have asked recently about Ford vehicles, I told them the truth: don't waste your money in cr-p. If you are going to buy Ford, get vehicles of 4-5years ago. That was about the last time we did them right.

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Post ID: @tmr+1hf1mhtL

It's officially Clown world now.
Up is down, left is right bla bla bla.....
Quality should be everyone priority. If something is worth doing.... its worth doing well. Anyone not on the bandwagon should be canned.

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Post ID: @oed+1hf1mhtL

Happy to do that as long as I preface it with, "If you're ok with putting in something like 3 transmissions over the life of the vehicle."

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Post ID: @hqg+1hf1mhtL

Pretty great. Bronco sport and maverick are really great products, mostly because they learned the lessons from Escape which is pretty similar.

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Post ID: @ltd+1hf1mhtL

Some family members would like an inexpensive, fuel efficient small car, like a Focus. Too bad we don't make anything like that.

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Post ID: @hlo+1hf1mhtL

I know people that have Maverick orders in. I tried to warn them but low prices saved high MPG lured them. Even after trying to explain to them total cost of ownership.

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Post ID: @tjl+1hf1mhtL

I no longer can in good conscience. It is sad but when I retire soon I doubt I will even buy Ford products myself.

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Post ID: @rdf+1hf1mhtL

Same. Dealerships are running them off and price gouging, quality is abysmal.

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