Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

We aren’t even paid enough

Have you noticed that outside of the head of BUs, the vast majority of Chevron staff can’t even live in the best parts of Houston? River Oaks, Memorial Villages (Hunters Creek/Piney Point) and some parts of West University are not affordable. The best private schools are 27k a year, not doable with this job (maybe Expat can squeeze it in but not the house). What does that say about the company that even some of its best employees have to live in places like Katy etc? Why not get rid of the dead weight and pay more? Why is it so hard to make over $500k here before you are 60?

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Im glad business travel is strong again. I always try to tack on side trips or bring family along. A great perk, especially if traveling to Asia, Europe or down under.

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Post ID: @jggs+1iB5Vg8p

Complain about yourself, OP. I get paid huge amounts of money! I go laughing to the bank twice a month like clockwork and I often get a little extra on the side. Travel and expense reports are a good way to supplement the gravy train.

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Post ID: @cupe+1iB5Vg8p

Don’t tell anyone but I am having so much fun and work satisfaction that I would do it for free!!!

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Post ID: @5iox+1iB5Vg8p

OP definitely subscribes to the equity of outcome nonsense - anything that's good should be available to everyone, whether you worked for it or not.

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Post ID: @3wxv+1iB5Vg8p

River Oaks starter homes are around $4 million which implies income of around $1 million (monthly PITI of about $27,000 assuming 20% down and 5.25% interest rate). That is PSG 30 or so.

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Post ID: @3iio+1iB5Vg8p

Well, we all want better pay no question about that, but, OP, what makes you to think you deserve 500k per year and not anyone else?

Op, you think you are entitled to that kind of pay on what basis? Most people in fast food and service industry work longer hours, are more dedicated and at best are paid $15 per hour, just because you have a degree in STEM, does not qualify you for such a big pay check. There are so many hard working and decent people in The US and outside that are paid way less, living on pay check to pay check, really struggling to raise their family and still do not entitle themselves to even a fraction of what you are asking. It is always good to dream big, but being humble and having some sort of empathy for the less fortunate and being thankful for being blessed is the least you can thank God for.

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Post ID: @3lpk+1iB5Vg8p

When you guy are able to think for yourselves, come up with an original thought of your own instead of copy and pasting like a 4 year old can easily do, I will think about reading. Until then, get a life, an actual purpose and a clue. Thanks.

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Post ID: @3dhp+1iB5Vg8p

(Four well-dressed men sitting together at a vacation resort. 'Farewell to Thee' being played in the background on Hawaiian guitar.)

Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.

Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?

Terry Jones: You're right there Obediah.

Eric Idle: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?

MP: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

GC: A cup ' COLD tea.

EI: Without milk or sugar.

TJ: OR tea!

MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.

EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

TJ: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, 'Money doesn't buy you happiness.'

EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

TJ: You were lucky to have a ROOM! We used to have to live in a corridor!

MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

EI: Well when I say 'house' it was only a ho-e in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.

GC: We were evicted from our ho-e in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

TJ: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.

MP: Cardboard box?

TJ: Aye.

MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

TJ: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread kn--e.

EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would ki-l us, and dance about on our graves singing 'Hallelujah.'

MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

ALL: Nope, nope..

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Post ID: @3khb+1iB5Vg8p

River Oaks homes were never intended for people who work for other people. Take a look, virtually everyone who lives in River Oaks is either old money or self-made wealthy (lawyers, business owners, entrepreneurs, etc.). Another note, most people who live in Katy, Richmond, The Woodlands, etc. do so for their kids to have a good education without having to take out a 2nd mortgage.

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Post ID: @2msi+1iB5Vg8p

About 20 years there was an earth scientist in the Houston office who actually bought one of the more modest homes in River Oaks. I think it was about $750,000 back when median Houston home prices were about $100k. It was a nice house on Chevy Chase street but nothing special. The kicker, however, was that he bought it with part of his $10 million inheritance! Anyhow, he decided he wasn't having fun in the oil business and moved to Austin.

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Post ID: @2puz+1iB5Vg8p

LMAO, yeah. there's too big of a "gap between wage increases" and;
being able to afford ...................... (Fill in the blank), therefore , I am underpaid. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!
You can't make this stuff up. I tell you!

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Post ID: @2upr+1iB5Vg8p

@1qqk, Yes that's definitely boomer mentality, you have that correct. Paying an employee according to their value and net contribution to the company instead of based on the size and cost of home that they desire at any given time. Couldn't agree more, can't say it always works out perfectly there are always some who can scam the system but the goal is to pay employees according to their value to the company not based on the model Lexus or Tesla they wish to buy. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Post ID: @2ueg+1iB5Vg8p

@1fgk, right on. I think that this appears to be a gripe from someone who is stuck with a salary that they cannot improve upon because they simply do not have the skills nor abilities to advance and are paid just what they are worth, bottom of the barrel. That has nothing to do with any particular company but more the individual. If the OP has the ability & skills to move to a higher rate position then they would have long ago and many jump ship for that very reason. I wonder what's stopping him for getting the pay he deserves elsewhere?

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Post ID: @2swb+1iB5Vg8p

Hey river oaks guy, you are definitely not in river oaks proper lol you must be in some outskirt that claims to be river oaks or some god awful townhouse or tear down. Even 15 years ago a 21 isn’t affording anything worthwhile there! Lol

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Post ID: @1omk+1iB5Vg8p

This post was an experiment by HR. We are extremely glad to hear that all of you are content with your pay! We will hold your pay flat based on the comments below. Thank you.

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Post ID: @1ghl+1iB5Vg8p

Buying a home 15 years ago and refusing to acknowledge the gap between wage increases and home prices is typical Boomer mentality. I’d truly expect nothing less from someone so out of touch.

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Post ID: @1qqk+1iB5Vg8p

I don’t know about you, OP, but when I joined Chevron 28 years ago and moved up slowly thtough the rank and pay grades, I was transferred to Houston some 15 years ago and bought a house in River Oaks five years later while still employed at Chevron at a PSG 21. Yes, even at that level of pay, I was able to buy a home here with a handsome down payment and affordable monthly notes. Today, I’ve been retired since 2016 and my home is paid off. No mortgage. Maybe you’re living beyond your means? I never did that. Happy for it too.

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Post ID: @1ijf+1iB5Vg8p

Who's WE??????? I'm compensated quite generously/competitively at Chevron based on my degree and years of experience. I have checked it against national data and also spoken to many in other states who were willing to divulge that info, including recruiters.
Speak only for yourself, no one else, OP.

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Post ID: @1fgk+1iB5Vg8p

HR is full of PSG26-29 who just have a high school or college "home ec" degree and have been around the company for a few decades.

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Post ID: @1rlz+1iB5Vg8p

One thing is for sure, people in HR making equivalent pay to critical engineering roles is totally insane. They should be on a totally difference pay grade scale entirely - any dummy with an online training certificate can do that job lol

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Post ID: @1wxo+1iB5Vg8p

All the OpCo heads are cheapskates to some extent. They live in Afton Oaks, West U, etc. When HQ moves to Houston you may see some execs move into River Oaks but it is fairly exclusive and does not welcome "new money" people too readily.

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Post ID: @1ixy+1iB5Vg8p

$1mm may not even get you a tear down in memorial. Could try Briargrove but that’s not same schools etc. Need $2.5 mil at least. By the time you get there, you’ll likely be close to 50 if you are hi-po and moved a lot or you are over 50 and heading a BU. Hence most people in Katy eating bag lunches

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Post ID: @1fdo+1iB5Vg8p

CNAEP head can afford it, nobody else probably can. Perhaps not even GMs who are old people anyway

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Post ID: @1ikc+1iB5Vg8p

I had a short conversation with the incoming head of CNAEP some years ago. He complained his wife wanted to live in the Memorial area and it might cost him a million dollars for a house. I laughed and suggested he review the salary figure on his offer letter.

Chevron employees are not the richest people in Houston nor should they be. You are wage slaves and you belong in suburban tract homes riding the bus to work. If you want to get rich, get a real job with large sales commissions or start a business.

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Post ID: @1cth+1iB5Vg8p

OMG you're not one of the top earners and don't make 500k? You poor BAYBAY!!!! I feel so so bad for you. They should at least give you a safe space so you can be free to reflect on your inner pain, dear.
Bless your heart.

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Post ID: @1lsp+1iB5Vg8p

Stop being so ungrateful. You sound ridiculous.

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Post ID: @1rlg+1iB5Vg8p

Why compare yourself to the average when you work for a global top 20 company? Just saying, the pay seems low. Guess other engineers do worse

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Post ID: @1beq+1iB5Vg8p

I almost donated plasma this weekend. Inflation is hurting. Stopped eating out. My family is cutting back on expenses in every way.

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Post ID: @1oeo+1iB5Vg8p

Dude, the avg salary in the US is like $60k and you’re complaining about not making $500k.. Houston suburbs like Katy and The Woodlands have awesome public schools. You don’t have to go private for a great education.

I feel like you’re just trolling but in case you’re not… you don’t need $500k to enjoy your life. <3

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