Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Most LL6's are initially promoted to sections where they have ZERO idea of the technical details to design / release those parts.
LL6 are subservants of the LL5/4's YES men basically the emasculated type whose wives cheat on them. Beta type of leadership that think that they are it for being LL6 and many if not most abuse their "power" against those they do not like, and HR is behind them.
Formerly know TDE fired several LL6 most of them with more than 20 years in service who did nothing to improve quality issues, in fact they were the roadblock to implement design fixes but they were afraid of speaking up against their "masters".
None of them will be missed, in fact they stayed longer hurting Transmission quality badly, They may have been technical wh-z kids in their FCG era but a nerd with technical expertise remains a nerd and it does not mean that promoting him will make him be a people's leader.
To be a good spvr takes more than be a "good technical" person it requires having the personality to lead. Most of formerly known TDE LL6's have no personality to be leaders in fact nobody gives a hoot about them outside the office.
Promotions to LL6 are based on looks and godfathers rather than potential to be good contributor for the company.
and Billy Jr is responsible for that mess, Mark Fields was a true leader but Billy could not see him shadowing him. MF replacements one old fa-t cabinet maker and then a Tier 3 executive from other OEM but both show that Billy is their master and they are just pool boys

Most LL6 are gypsies moving every 3 years. Most LL6's were former FCG's who got a heavy weight mentor who push their up.
Most of LL6's are technically useless, they even acknowledge that. A rare unicorn LL6 is the one who let their direct reports to get the credit for their job. Most LL6 are allowed to express their frustration on their employees, they are allowed to be racists, chauvinists, discriminate against whoever they want, give TA to their favorite employees, be salcker, etc. SInce the LL4/5 hired them any complaint from the GSR's is mute on arrival.
I have seen LL6's pushing away engineers when they were promoted just because the guy had beard or was heavy, or went to Mich Tech or OSU. HR allows LL6 to push away whoever they want so they can create their team even though LL6 will move out in 3 years
HR model is one of many reason Ford Quality is bad, those called People Leaders (LL6s) just care for themselves, as well as all LL2/3/4/5 because they started in the sorority as LL6's all LL levels are corrupted from their inception

Being divisive never solves a problem. I have worked for great LL6s and some not great. Its Ford's HR process that is abysmal and can promote the wrong people to the wrong spots. Ford does treat most LL and all GSR as cogs/teeth on a 100,000 point gear so any and every tooth is replaceable or interchangeable. That is obviously not true and the companies that make the best vehicles manage people and process much better. Can someone state the obvious that being out of office for 2 years with mass retirements/terminations means there is no process consistency?
What do YOU really want to drive? Everybody knows the top 3 vehicle brands THEY would want in their garage I don't even have to say them. And those products are a result of the principles the company has or does not have.

They are not heroes
They dont need a song if praise

LL6 level is not needed in this company. They are useless. They give direction from LL5 to GSR's. The GSR's do the work. The LL6 gets credit for it while relaying the status to LL5. Eliminate that useless position. Most don't have what it takes.

@1dgk+1itVOV6u 102-190k+ base salary, bonus in addition to that

How much does a typical LL6 get paid?

Couldn't agree more!

3 songs come to mind:

1. Don't Know What You Got - Cinderella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ

2. Let's Hear it for the Boy - Deniece Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7YHZVc7mM

3. For He's A Jolly Good Fellow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8n-PDVYgu4

LL6 are people promoted who are good looking, speak well and have intimate connections with the higher up. Totally worthless.

Not everyone in the “room” is a GSR but many of you are right about the role. I was promoted into an LL6 position and had deep and broad technical experience in the team where I was promoted. I helped direct reports with technical issues and believe it or not I actually continued to complete assignments. If something went wrong I took the “blame” and helped resolve it. A couple of years later I was moved to an area I knew nothing about and questioned why I would be given responsibilities for roles I had no knowledge of. They told me I’d figure it out. I worked hard and long to gain knowledge of the new area and after I “figured it out” I was moved again. I could go on but you get the point. Upper management views people as interchangeable puzzle pieces and as long as there’s a body in a seat they’re happy. Maybe the upper levels of management are interchangeable but the LL6 role is useless if they know nothing about the work their team is responsible for. Ford promotes people who, in most cases, know what they’re doing then moves them around so often that in time they have no usable skills.

I've been fortunate to work for some great LL6s over the years who really cared about the teams. Then there were others who were clearly just stepping on folks to try to climb the ladder. Seems like the latter is more the norm lately.

Some are great. Some are worthless.

LL6s? You mean those that were promoted for some reason, and after a rotation in other areas, their knowledge (if they had it) has waned or it is not applicable to their current role? Yes, they are useful... to approve the timesheets and OT.

Now, there used to be some technical LL6s with no subordinates. Those were the best technical minds in the company, and supported multiple teams. Those rocked! However, there were many that were let go (positions eliminated or replaced by id--ts in the F&F plan)

I think the LL6 role has changed over time. Now they are actually GSR9.

I think the LL6 role has changed over time. Now they are actually GSR9.

Haha 😜 - read the room; this forum is mostly GSRs who wield pitchforks at any LLs

Some LL6 just maintain and record the meeting minutes.No technical input per say.

The most useless layer in the cake.