Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

why managers call engineers back

one of the buddy I know got laid off at cisco a few years back and joined a startup. His manager called him and offered him a position without any interviews.

I have two questions.

  1. How come cisco rehires them without an interview, what do the rest of the team members feel about it?
  1. How come the manager call this person back when he thiks this person is a poor performer, just to show case him that he doesn't want to spoin the life? What happen to cisco standards.
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Post ID: @OP+1j0dTIEE

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I am the OP, once you hit submit, we can't edit. If I start reviewing, it is much tougher than anybody else.

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Post ID: @7olk+1j0dTIEE

OPs inability yo take ==> OPs inability to take
OP should be well on their way to a directorship ==> OP should be well on his way to a directorship.

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If this person wasn’t seen as a poor performer the question about how the team feels wouldn’t make any sense. They’d be glad to have a known good performer return.

The person under question is not interested to work again, his exit is grief.

spoin ==> should be read as spoil

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Post ID: @7ekf+1j0dTIEE
I never called my friend a "poor performer”. It's the manager's judgment. … You got the wrong understanding of my post.

If this person wasn’t seen as a poor performer the question about how the team feels wouldn’t make any sense. They’d be glad to have a known good performer return.

You haven’t established what the manager’s total judgement was as they may have simply been told “get rid of a body” and they had to pick one. HR will insure the review is crafted to meet certain legal requirements (there are no ethical requirements) and with companies doing background checks where past lawsuits against an employer are going to raise red flags only people who can afford to never work again will sue.

What word that became “spoin” makes any sense in OPs last sentence? Machines have been correcting spelling for decades so OPs inability yo take advantage of it says OP should be well on their way to a directorship.

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Post ID: @7xfn+1j0dTIEE

As some sort of contractor via 3rd party, then back to full time? Yes, that’s possible and you don’t need the interview.

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Post ID: @6qpa+1j0dTIEE

@3kkk+1j0dTIEE,
Everyone in this thread can be assured that you are a certified a$$ho-e, cornholer, stupid, id--t, and a b@@$t@rd. A detailed explanation is below.

  1. I never called my friend a "poor performer". It's the manager's judgment. He picked this person alone from a team of 8 to be fired. It is an insult to my friend to go back and work for the same manager and team. He joined PANW now and doing great. You got the wrong understanding of my post. So, you are stupid.
  1. Don't look for typos on this website, no one got time to check spelling or grammar here. Only mediocre people talk about typos when they have anything else to say. I am 100% sure that you understand the crux of my post. Hence, you are an a$$ho-e, cornholer, and everything else I mentioned above.
  1. Your explanation of the demographics of the people is not applicable here, I shared a specific incident that happened to my friend. I know different people get fired for different reasons. M friend is just 30 and in grade 10 when he got fired.

If someone has a bad experience with a company, team, manager, or any person, no one is willing to work with the other party again. They also make sure that the other parties won't be part of the kingdom they are building on the other side. You can catch typos again of this post.

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Post ID: @3lrj+1j0dTIEE
How come the manager call this person back when he thiks this person is a poor performer, just to show case him that he doesn't want to spoin the life? What happen to cisco standards.

OP, you're an a$$. Many people, smart and hard working people, have been LR'd by Cisco. It's not because they're poor performers like you who can't spell or type.

Many of them were mid-career (over 40), expensive due to yrs of experience, or both. They were let go due to budget issues, not performance. Cisco would rather have 2-3 grade 6 employees instead of 1 grade 8 or 10 with 15+ yrs experience.

As to bring ex-Cisco employees back w/o interviewing. It's a pretty common thing even if they don't come back to the same team because managers will talk to other managers, or they interacted with them in some way and knew their work. Many times, these ex-employees come back as contractors therefore there's no interview and they get converted later. If they're lucky, they can come back directly w/o wasting time as a contractor again.

It's all about your work ethic and how you leave a company that gets you the next job, or the job after that because it's a small world and people know you or know people who know you. I've been asked if I know a candidate because we worked at the same company or client at the same time and a hiring manager wants to know about them. If they were a slacker, deadwood, or just a poor performer or annoying to team mates, I'm not going to recommend that they be offered a chance to join a team I'm working on.

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Post ID: @3kkk+1j0dTIEE

It happened to our team as well, my manager called back a girl who is really beatiful

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Post ID: @2xnl+1j0dTIEE

You are assuming layoffs are performance based. It's all based on relationships and politics at Cisco.

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Post ID: @1hmg+1j0dTIEE

Certain Indeviduals made fun of needs in schools years...Now they have to kiss Their as--s.

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Post ID: @1luy+1j0dTIEE

Cisco has laid off whole business units in a given region and lost some great people that way, and they have kept and even promoted people who have been net losses far in excess of their salaries making them objectively worse than deadwood.

Your questions seem based on a range of assumptions and any answers are going to be even farther removed from reality.

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