For two years my manager managed to find an excuse for why the promotion I was promised was not materializing. I was an id--t to accept it for as long as I have, but now I'm done. I'm making a career move that doesn't come with a pay increase but it comes with the bonus of being as far away from my current manager as possible. Learn from my mistakes. If you are promised something and then denied that same thing once, then a second time, walk away. It took me two years to get it into my stupid head that I was at a career dead end because I was too valuable to my manager (I was too good at making him look good for him to give me up).
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I only had one honest manager in my entire career, who basically told me that once you hit 45, years old, the company doesn’t care about you anymore. Ain’t that the truth?!!
@2esx+1jRY48Fz exactly, I know a few people who were rapidly promoted early on in their careers, their sponsor retired or they got a b-m rap in a bad assignment/bad boss, and it effectively tanked their careers. Even ranking/assessing well and consistently after their sponsor’s retirement kept them within the clutches of ye olde advancement guide.
Management simply cannot be honest, this has gotten much worse over the last few years.
It really is behind the scenes in beqom. If you haven’t maintained ranking (or a high enough ranking) then the required YEE will be too high. It’s bullsh-t because if you do on the off chance get an early promotion then you’re hosed for the next one because the YEE is that much higher than what yours is.
This is part of why I left. My age doesn’t determine my value, but to EM it does. The way my new employer calculates promotion eligibility is by assessment tier and years in the current CL.
Read that again. YEARS IN CURRENT CL. They don’t care if I’m 28 and at the CL of someone who is typically early 30s, they’ll still promote me because of my experience and the VALUE that I bring. Not some arbitrary YEE.
It takes three things to succeed at this company. Your talent (actual technical and people skills), good supervisors (i.e. selfless managers that develop their people), and business luck (right place at right time). With talent alone you can only progress so far (CL 26/27 tops). What's amazing is how far the managers have gotten without the talent.....and with simply the one or two others that most visitors to this site have never benefited from.
what happens to you is a function of what you allow
BINGO!
Age discrimination!!
“YEE”, or year end experience, is referred to as someone’s years of “professional” experience, used to (dis)qualify people for promotions. However to me it’s basically age discrimination, as it’s calculated as (age-18)
Earlier this year, I moved into a role with the plan to onboard a few months and then take over a supervisor position, get off-guide, and push for a promotion. My manager got moved and the new one decided not to follow that plan, so I got my own promotion outside of EM. Unfortunately career path often depends heavily on one or a few individuals, and timing can effectively stall or even end career progression.
Beqom? YEE?
Story sound familiar. I got the bait and switch as well. I was not expecting a promotion or pay increase, but at a minimum, I expected truth from my manager when it comes to clarity, responsibilities, and a path to career opportunities that lead to those things. Utter failure. He was more interested in me doing his work (not my work) to make him look good.
I don’t believe these outcomes are the the result an automated HR system. That’s just an excuse. Plenty of lazy managers not willing to have real conversations or simple manipulation.
That isn’t necessarily true. You can be off-guide if in a Supervisor position, meaning you may be eligible for a CL bump through exception process.
Computer says no… sounds very familiar. My two last managers promised promotion too but have dropped me in ranking. Why do I see so many demotivated people around me?
Your manager no longer decides promotions. HR has automated promotions and raises with a system called beqom. It uses an equation based on your ranking and YEE.