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Anti-DEI = commons sense approach to hiring the best and brightest employees, not by color of skin, religion, s-x, disability, etc.
Nobody in there right mind hires anybody who they think maybe can do the job, they hire people who can do the job. Go anywhere. That is the concrete expectation. Regardless of if they support DEI or not.
DEI is was just an excuse to satisfy the political winds that directed the bank to be a team player. Now those winds are changing and hopefully we can get back to the common sense approach to hiring the best, regardless of where you came from.
Charlie here - stop complaining about DEI.
Anti-DEI = White Affirmative Action.
@c6+1jj9wq0pw Actually in the case of RTO and DEI, he is doing the opposite of Jamie.
Charlie is just doing what Jamie tells him to do.
Anyway we work for a bank. Money is the bottom line always. I don't think anyone who has the power to approve a hire really, truly cares about DEI beyond circumstances, appearances, and salary.
Except for the C suite grifters, it's only about who's your friend or who's cheapest.
I'm the white guy who said DEI was the only legitimate way to question why it appears most hires in tech in US are of Indian descent.
My statement applies to any group. I used one instance which is apparent to me in my experience. I have multiple neuro-divergent, otherly-abled, non-traditional gender identifying individuals in my family. I wish for them all to have the same opportunities as I have.
I don't have any idea as to what the best way to accomplish that type of equal opportunity is. It's clear that most people have a natural bias towards hiring people like them, or what is familiar to them, or what is beautiful to them, or what is least disruptive to a team, etc There really should be some sort of check to that bias, to ensure otherwise qualified folks are not excluded from the process.
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"Regarding DEI: we need to keep diversity, unless you just want the bank to be a boys club like the 1960s. We need cultural diversity, we need people with disabilities to be included, we need minorities to have a chance to advance in their career. We need women and LGBT to also have a chance to climb the corporate ladder. If you are complaining about DEI, it means you are scared of the blue haired ADHD girl taking your big boy job."
I was mostly agreeing with you until that last sentence of being scared.
All of what you said will come with that person when they are hired, as the best candidate.
Hiring the best candidate has NOTHING to do with s-x, race, disabilities, etc.
NOTHING.
Anti-DEI = White Affirmative Action.
@az+1jj9wq0pw The boys club that built this bank did just that. Built it. No one else could,have. They did. And the more we water down the talent pool, the more this bank will fall apart- just like the last administration did.
Can you articulate why "just hire the best person for the job" won't naturally result in representation from those groups you listed?
Glad I didn’t waste my time…
Ok, why is the DSRI team mainly made up of black people? Each getting paid about $200k?
Regarding DEI: we need to keep diversity, unless you just want the bank to be a boys club like the 1960s. We need cultural diversity, we need people with disabilities to be included, we need minorities to have a chance to advance in their career. We need women and LGBT to also have a chance to climb the corporate ladder. If you are complaining about DEI, it means you are scared of the blue haired ADHD girl taking your big boy job.
Your racism and ignorance is showing .. DEI isn’t just about the color of one’s skin. It’s also about embracing those with social abilities that are different from the norm or someone autistic or disabled… it’s about believing that anyone can make a difference EVEN if they’re different.
What Charlie said was don’t get caught up on the buzz words of the day but we value and embrace diversity.
News flash: diversity is more than skin color
"...once headcount is low enough that existing office space can hold it, he'll use a lowering of productivity excuse to pull everyone back in."
Thats exactly right. We are good for now, but until when?
I really don't care about DEI, and and in fact it was the only thing that allowed legitimately questioning why every f-ing hire in tech is of Indian descent. Really, Indians are the only best qualified people?
DEI affects everyone personally. Opportunities are legion, go earn it. Doesn't matter what color you are. Everything but "hire the best person for the job" is offensive and doomed to fail. Do that and I don't care what the color of the people in the room is, because what they will look like is "highly capable people" and that's what we need. If all my peers and boss were one color, or one s-x, or one of any other demographic check box, I couldn't care less. I don't need to 'look like them'. I just want to work with good people. DEI isn't designed to achieve that. Quite the opposite actually.
He did well by me. Sort of shut down DEI and doubled down on hybrid work.
@ae+1jj9wq0pw So how is DEI affecting you personally? Does it sting to see people of color/women get opportunities only afforded to Yt men? Did you benefit from the "good ol boy" club of the past?
@ac+1jj9wq0pw They keyword is PEOPLE....He didnt specify American People...
There it is the DEI question. The correct answer is that DEI is discrimination and it needs to DIE, what companies are doing is illegal plain and simple.
Why is Charlie coming off like the anti Jaime Diamond🤔
If Schart "wants people to want to work here", why do they keep laying off Americans?
Don't kid yourselves re: RTO....he said employees have to keep getting the work done and once headcount is low enough that existing office space can hold it, he'll use a lowering of productivity excuse to pull everyone back in.
Just think, they spent money on that setting, and those fashion choices in order to appeal to the target audience.
No five day RTO? Charlie thinks things are working well the way they are? Hybrid is a COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE?… who is this guy? Don’t make me start to kind of like you, Chuckles.😂
Glad I am making Chuck's job easy!
Boots dude is hilarious looking.
Pants go over boots. Ever heard of boot jeans?
Watching the townhall, Barry is wearing boots..outside of his pants!!! He looks like a fool. You don't tuck your pants into your boots.
Those white chairs are way too high, makes Charlie look like a manlet.
Charlie get some work done? His face seems suprisingly smooth and taught.
My last one….hopefully. Um…ummm.