I’m getting reorged under a new manager to a position with much more responsibility. Managers, is there a way to turn this into an off cycle promotion or something? It looks an awful lot like more work for the same pay and job title.
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Charlie don't surf
They want you to think that is a possibility, but you too will lose your job to someone younger and willing to take less pay.
@et+1jjwkky1g, that is so true. If you keep working very hard "quietly", no one would notice your accomplishments, they don't even know you exist. If you have a bad manager, he/she will always try to undermine your accomplishments and take credit of your hard work. So you have to constantly broadcast and brag about your talent whenever you are in front of the Sr. leadership. It's all about "visibility", "visibility" is everything! Everybody should watch Legally Blonde and Mean Girls.
"... Roles were awarded ... on visibility ... the result of creating a well-received PowerPoint or catching the attention of leadership over a short period."
@ds+1jjwkky1g,
What took you this long to discover this? This is the basic corporate politics, they even mention it in the MBA school (organizational theory 101).
Sigh
Chances are about zero. No mid year raises or promotions unless approved by OC level. Everything is pushed to the annual review cycle. Even then, odds are very low.
My organization recently underwent a reorganization, and as a result, I was effectively moved down a level despite several years of experience on the team. Meanwhile, individuals with significantly less experience—both in terms of tenure and expertise—have been placed in vertical lead positions where they do not belong.
It seems that, in some cases, these roles were awarded not based on merit or leadership ability, but rather on visibility—perhaps the result of creating a well-received PowerPoint or catching the attention of leadership over a short period. Unfortunately, this means there are now individuals in higher-level positions who lack the necessary experience, while more qualified professionals find themselves lower in the hierarchy.
The answer to your complains is NO.
Good luck! The fact that they are pushing it to Tuesday isn't a good sign, but we can hope!
"At Best a vague promise to "try to do something next year at merit"."
Too funny. I got this response a number of times and believed them. That's why I am decades into this place.
Waiting for that "chat" with my boss on a tuesday.
You can ask but you probably will not receive. I did years ago, but in the current environment with location consolidation and cost reduction I highly doubt you’ll get one.
Unless you have damning information about the Shart family, you ain't getting no promotion or pay increase in this scenario. At Best a vague promise to "try to do something next year at merit".
Well this escalated quickly
What was the OPs question?
@aw appears to have Stockholm syndrome.
I refuse to be abused at work, having to work to live is abuse enough. Sorry, not sorry.
What abunch of wu-sies. Can't handle cr-ppy managers.
In my more than 40 year career have i never been able to handle a manager. Have had screamers, unhinged, threatened with getting punched out, survived them all.
Grow a pair.
You'd better pray that your new manager is not an evil one. I was initially hired by a wonderful great manager, but WF did an unexpected reorg, I was given a nightmare manager who made my life he-l. After enduring torture for about 1 year, I found a new job elsewhere and was able to jump the ship. But that 1 year period gave me PTSD.
Charlie here, no… just do as told.
This happened to me. No pay raise, no title change. The team I was pulled from has been heavily pruned by the chainsaw. I was fortunate in that regard.