Did anyone just finish listening to the first meeting? What were your thoughts?
Seemed a bit sketchy to me... 🤔
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The writing is on the wall with UHC. Majority of the people will stay (now) and they’ll (upper management) have to make a decision later who or how many to Involuntary layoff. I don’t think everyone will be affected, but it will be the chosen ones to stay for the U.S work flow..Whoever they like. But remember the directors have been trying to tell us for a while something like this could take place indirectly of course. Also, I’m not here to put fear into anyone. Best of luck on whatever decision you make.
On the 1st call that took place on Yesterday, when asked about layoffs after 5/1, he repeated 2x “ That’s not our intent”Ooooookkkk. I went thru this over 20yrs ago while at an HP in Michigan and received a small severance (2yrs at the comp) and received Unemployment 2 weeks after. I’m in another state and will have to see the laws.Ive been with UHC for 19yrs 10 months I’m leaning toward taking my severance and calling bailing. I wouldn’t have zero confidence in working for them after 5/1 if I stay. So much to think about.
@e6+1jmfws365 This is more difficult for many of us, than it may be for you, as I would say most of us NEED this job to support our families. When we are being pulled into a meeting with upper management and given a brief and somber statement about this program, and it sounds like majority of us WERE told in the meeting that depending on how many opted to take the package...they will make the "difficult decision" to terminate employment due to business needs. A meeting where we weren't able to ask questions and our leaders didn't even have any information to provide us. And we had one week to decide, and another week to opt into this program. So, yes. This IS and HAS BEEN a big deal. But if you are having such a hard time with us voicing our concerns with each other on this thread... Just move along.
Amazing how difficult people are making this. VSRP is voluntary, unemployment is by the state, but UHC will not contest if your state approves unemployment, which most don’t in this situation. It’s really not your business how many people might be laid off and should have nothing to do with anyone’s decision. That answer could change so it’s useless information. Take the VSRP, probably no unemployment and can’t come back for 12 months but you get extra severance. Don’t take it, you might get laid off anyway in the next few months, you won’t get the extra money but you should def qualify for unemployment then. If you take it, you must work until May 1. That’s all of it.
Last week everyone on here hated their job, this week everyone is mad they’re paying you to leave. Move on.
They definitely have a target number and that target # would be a savings $ amount. Total number of people needed to meet that number would depend on the salaries of the people terminated. With so many issues in UHC Core Operations they can only offset that by reducing costs. In layman’s terms, the only way they can say “look how good we are doing” at the end of the year and for 2026 budget setting and say “look what a good job we did (we being Mike Baker and his direct reports), is by reducing their teams onshore employee count. If this is for grade 32 and under then his direct reports are safe but everyone under them isn’t.
They have never done our jobs. The jobs that keep the money flowing in for them. We are the ones that are providing the amazing "customers experience" they gloat about. We are the ones that work 10 - 12 hour days, and sometimes 6 days a week during Open Enrollment or whatever issues arise such as the Change Healthcare fiasco. So what is going to happen when their customers leave because they can't speak to a live person because everything is done online, the wait times to speak to a real live person due to lack of knowledgeable staff, or they'll get someone they can't understand from overseas. If they do end up laying off a significant amount of us, they will for sure fall. That's on them.
All I have to say is good luck seeing the good ol boys take all the calls when they lay us off! 14 billion revenue while they treat us like cattle? Begging for measley deal when we are thrown into an already useless job market? I say come at me bro! I know my worth! I work hard every month and if you let me go another company will be more than happy to watch me build the up with my metrics and work ethic. I can't believe I fell for integrity compassion etc bullsh-t! You have shown NONE of this to your employees! Burn it down!
In the Q&A section, under Post-employment, it clearly stated in written that “but the company will not contest any unemployment claims” till 5pm today. BUT now they removed it! What a shame! They are playing games!
The state you reside in determines your unemployment benefit. UHC today just said they wouldn't contest it, but that would be after your state approves it. There are some instances where a state would approve and then the company would fight it. Check with your state!
Honestly if you can also get unemployment that's a pretty sweet deal...
Sounds like President Musk is in the house....
@a7+1jmfws365 If you sign this offer, its basically a contract that you will fulfill your duties until May 1 in exchange for the buyout. If you leave before that, you aren't fulfilling the contract and therefore wouldn't get the buyout benefits.
I thought he avoided answering the questions about layoffs. He said there are no quotas for program and that they are just balancing staffing with declining attrition. Hmm. I dont believe that. No company offers this just be nice and give employees options. Total smokescreen
@ak+1jmfws365 Did they also lay off your punctuation?
This is my new favorite social media site.
I'm so grateful to be able to come here each day and find out wtf everyone else heard.
First off his smug a-s smile when he first signed onto the meeting, set me right off second, none of the questions that anybody specifically asked about how many people would be affected by the actual layoff if we don’t take the package or how many people there are expecting to take the package was ever answered and basically all they did was read off the website that they had sent to us the day that they gave us the original announcement as if none of us can read and then at the end of it have a good day. kiss my a-s son of a bi--h
I don’t see you being affected by the damn layoff Mr. I’m above grade 38 if you and two of your colleagues freaking resignation considering the fact that you got us into this damn mess the people who actually do do the work would still have our jobs and our livelihood
If someone didn't ask in the meeting, I don't believe they would have mentioned that the decision lies with the states unemployment. It's 'in writing', but I'm sure unemployment won't accept a picture of my computer screen. They should have put it in parenthesis to check with the state separately to be sure. But if you've seen their sops.....(eye roll)
Is the not disputing unemployment comment in writing? That's a game changer because MN will NOT pay out for voluntary layoff, but I'd def check with unemployment to see if you can still get unemployment if the company states they will not challenge. I'd want it in writing though. That's not as horrible an offer if that's the case.
This is the way the first call should have been handled. I found this much more transparent. They cast a wide net for this offer. This isn’t the first time they have done this here. One of our leaders reported they were looking at 2-4% of people to take it. But again the unemployment question. People need to look at their state laws. UHC will not contest it but if your state specifically calls out voluntary resignation makes you not qualified. You are not qualified! Bottom line. If you are a low performer, I would seriously look at taking the offer.
Correct. However, it depends on the state. But they said they would not dispute it.
Did I hear right that they won’t contest unemployment claims if you take the package?
I was surprised they said they won't dispute unemployment claims. I find it hard to believe unemployment would pay for this scenario.
They wouldn't be offering this to 20k+ employees if they didn't want large numbers participating. That's what speaks to me.
Literally just read and answered questions from the FAQ! Not one of the questions I submitted was answered. What a joke! I purposely sent in the same question over 15xs and still no answer. Seems useless and a waste of time. Then when asked if not enough ppl volunteer will we lose our jobs and he answered “well there’s no quota” but if you go into the fact sheet in says right there that if their plans aren’t met they will need to take additional actions including involuntary reductions. He said it himself, he doesn’t think a lot of people will be taking the offer, so what do you think the next steps will be!?
Especially if this is within one specific department. UHC as a whole is huge. O&E alone.. 15k, 10k, even 5k will be a huge detriment for everyone.
He was lying! When asked if no one would take the offer he said then we would adjust based off business needs. And he said we don’t intend to layoff 30k but that doesn’t mean you won’t lay off 15k
What stood out to me is when specifically asked whether there will be mass layoffs if not enough people select voluntary resignation, he first tried to deny it saying oh no that's not the case. The specifically said right after that that UHC is "trying to avoid involvoluntary layoffs". The call is coming from inside the house!
confused by if someone is approved and then leaves before may 1st that it’s considered a voluntary resignation but they said the package itself is also a voluntary resignation?? make it make sense!
They lied the whole time. Immediately started with how "great" the company is doing, and they wanted to give us a "choice."
If this was truly a "voluntary choice" they wouldn't have pulled us aside in meetings where we were muted and not allowed to ask questions. They delivered the news like we were being told someone died. This is far from "voluntary."
Straight up lying. I don't for one second believe that there's no target number of employees that they want to leave the company. The mass layoff will happen eventually.
On Monday we were specially told by a VP if not enough people took the buyout there would be layoffs.
It was pointless. Just a read along of the share point.
@a1+1jmfws365 I couldn't agree more. Did you notice how when asked about whether we would lose our jobs if there weren't enough volunteers he couldn't even look into the camera.
They purposely asked the same questions that can be found in the sheet and basically said refer to the sheet. Nothing was made more clear and Mike could care less.