A guy I work with beat his PIP. It’s been over a year, and he’s still here and no longer on a PIP. He busted his a-s, but it worked. I just wanted to let people know that while rare, it is possible to survive being put on a PIP.
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@OP Its been said million times and I say it again. its possible only if they want you to pass. You have no control over the outcome of your PIP
A buddy of mine was PIP'd in July of 2023, basically quit in place, stopped showing up for work claiiming stress related issues (which were in fact true) taking short term leave of absences, did not agree to in eight weeks instead spent his time investigating small businesses to purchase, found the business (franchise), took all his required training, transitioned and moved out of state, and finally turned in his notice in June of 2024. Hit the lottery on the business (exactly right place and right time and right business - wildfire related), expects to replace his salary and payoff his investment by the end of year 1. Never agree to resign, take on the PIP, stall, keep the check coming as long as possible, claim stress related issues, maximimize every leave benefit you can, etc.
The two year of no raises is incorrect. It’s two years of no CL promotion according to most advancement guides. It’s for sure one year of no raise.
Also, I’ve passed >3 people on the PIP because I needed them although they ranked lower relative to their peers.
Why bust your as$ for this $hit company? Supervisors will gaslight you into thinking that prospects elsewhere is worst.
Have some pride. Take your skill elsewhere where you are appreciated and treated with respect. No paycheck is worth the emotional abuse and working long nights to stay ahead of this con game. Whatever crumbs they toss you is not the foundation of a satisfying career. Get out while you still can.
If you are promoted, chances are your ranking in the next CL group will drop to the bottom 1/3 of the CL group. The argument is that you are in a much more competitive group at the higher CL group.
Translation: You were promoted to the next CL group to be the NSI/NI's to protect the HiPo's.
Also if your ranking suddenly drops a level (with no legitimate reason), it’s basically an unofficial PIP and you’re marked for demolition. Don’t be fooled. Good is not good.
Take the PIL!
Losing ground, slowly is all your friend achieved…
I’m excited for that person but not. The pip game be used for. I’ve seen several variations to this game. I have to agree unless you can get to a better super, it’s time to go. I understand the paycheck and the pride to beat the “odds”. It’s not worth it if you can leave now and get a fresh start. Maybe even move. Wish I had.
Unless you’re at the tail end of your career and the pension fund is within your reach, there is no point busting your behind to pass PIP. Your compensation will fall significantly behind your peers because of the two year salary freeze, and your overall career potential is essentially shot. You will be looking at multiple years of busting your behind trying to prove yourself while getting underpaid. Unless you’re a typical EM manager/supervisor with no real marketable skills on the job market, I can’t imagine anyone who would be motivated to stay after PIP.
How old was he? Some more experienced folks are PIP’d knowing that they will pass just so that younger folks in the group aren’t put in NSI.
In 7 years I've only known one person not to pass their PIP. It is doable with very minimal effort provided you have a supervisor that wants to help you.
Its already been said, but will repeat: why would anyone want to bust their a@@ to pass a pip so you can stay at a company that doesnt value you or want you.
A lot of people pass pip.
And you don't need anywhere near nsi ranking to go two years without a raise...
Why would anyone want to survive a pip?
Great, now he has two years of no raises
A PIP is not worth surviving, I suggest use the PIP time to find yourself a different gig, there's no future in XOM for anyone that's PIP'ed.