Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

RTO is no more

Hilarious the small mindedness of today’s corporate america leadership.
They think by doubling down on RTO they will break the will of the employee, but the world doesn’t work that way. Genies don’t fit back into bottles, bells don’t un-ring, and employees will never accept 5 day RTO. The small minds miss the 360 view of the resistance as well.

To corporate leadership: The truth is, we just don’t respect you. We don’t like you. We don’t value your strategy, direction, you’re bullying, your pompous cringe attitude, or even
your entitled personalities. In short, we’re awake and we’re not taking your bs anymore.

The only chance you have is to meet us on our terms and start treating us like the valuable member of the companies that we are. Short of that you will receive you will never break even with most of us. We know our worth and we demand the same level of respect and dignity that you demand from others. You want to force 5 day RTO, great, let’s have fun and erode your productivity and bottom line. We’ll go to the office and do only exactly as we’re told and exactly what is communicated to us just like contractors do.

On the other hand if you want to embrace this new world, go back to hybrid, dial back the us versus them mentality, and start kissing our a$$es. You have much to learn about the dawn of this new age, and AI isn’t going to save you. (I know because that’s what I do here).

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Post ID: @OP+1jn760agz

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Bro, I hate this company so much that even if they bring back the hybrid or remote, I am still going to find a new job and quit as soon as I get the job. I was hybrid for a decade, with assigned cubicles, and now RTO for the same pay, same work, with parking survival everyday, chasing seats daily, sitting next to no one and doing TEAMs all day. Its a big F off to me. Dont want to work for someone who hates me.

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Post ID: @wq+1jn760agz

As stated many times, policies and expectations are dynamic, that for all corporations. The corporations aren’t loyal to their employees because they are ruled by Wall Street’s mega equity funds like Black Rock. Every quarter they are trying to make financial guidance and growth metrics with fuzzy math. Layoffs, increasing scope of work for those remaining and selling assets is their panacea but eventually that ends and someone has to actually grow the company.

Employees aren’t valued and are seen as an expense, execs pander to the employee’s with constantly changing word salads, you matter, live your destination or purpose, etc.. they used to mean it but now they are like politicians, all words no action. Employees have to look out for their best interest, stay current with certs and continually network , the days of 30-40 years and out with a gold watch or grandfather clock are over. Started in the late seventies, NAFTA and the increase of H1B visa’s put it on steroids. Remember when they used to tell everyone all those manufacturing and textile jobs would be replaced with IT and software jobs, that was before high speed broadband. Look where we are now.

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Post ID: @hw+1jn760agz

AT&T's commitment to RTO is a gift to competitors looking to snag some seasoned talent. They don't need to offer higher wages or more attractive benefit structure, all it takes is hybrid work schedule. It's quite funny actually.

interesting how last year wfh was the only acceptable answer and now hybrid is a carrot dangled by other companies. sounds like it will just take a little more time for people to be accepting of 5x8

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Post ID: @hr+1jn760agz

The job market is tight right now and the bosses know it. Yes ATT over rotated with 5x8 as did other companies and all of them are suffering as a result. The goal was to get people to leave. However, all they did was upend any productivity and what little loyalty they had. Nobody is working hard anymore. There is absolutely no incentive to do better. The job market is beginning to swing the other direction and ATT is currently last in the rankings. The younger, non-pension talent is leaving. All that is left is the older workers waiting to retire. They are being out innovated left and right. If they keep the current path, we are going to be the next Enron.

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Post ID: @hm+1jn760agz

AT&T's commitment to RTO is a gift to competitors looking to snag some seasoned talent. They don't need to offer higher wages or more attractive benefit structure, all it takes is hybrid work schedule. It's quite funny actually.

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Post ID: @fj+1jn760agz

“In what world? All I see is people in seats, people looking for seats, and people being cut for not being in a seat. Sorry, OP. RTO is very real, and it isn't going away at AT&T.”

RTO is a fad right now. It will go away. RTO is stodgy, myopic Boomer thinking. Once later GenX, Millenials, and GenZ (and particularly GenZ) take over the reigns, RTO will be toast. We can expect a more balanced approach that includes full-time in office, hybrid, and remote. The job will dictate which needs to be applied. This is the way the entire job market will be in the future; and it's coming quicker than most think.

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Post ID: @e3+1jn760agz

“In what world? All I see is people in seats, people looking for seats, and people being cut for not being in a seat. Sorry, OP. RTO is very real, and it isn't going away at AT&T.”

Pretty sure OP is saying that RTO won’t flourish as a standard operating model within the constructs of a modern society. Way to see the big picture bro.

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Post ID: @d7+1jn760agz

"RTO is no more"

In what world? All I see is people in seats, people looking for seats, and people being cut for not being in a seat. Sorry, OP. RTO is very real, and it isn't going away at AT&T.

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Post ID: @cv+1jn760agz

"The only chance you have is to meet us on our terms and start treating us like the valuable member of the companies that we are"

Well, I doubt it. You as an employee, probably need them more that they need you. If you still have a beneficial job at T with limited prospects for anything better, you should be bowing to their requests. If you get a layoff notice and the lost income and health insurance that comes with that, you would be more than willing to rto to reverse it.

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Post ID: @cs+1jn760agz

HR and Legal need dedicated spaces so they can think of clever ways of getting rid of all of you.

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Post ID: @ap+1jn760agz

No RTO equals more Sanai Peninsula opportunities. Thank you, come again

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Post ID: @an+1jn760agz

Put some 6foot walls to create walkways so we are not watching everyone who walks to the restroom. GRE guy Ford said HR and Legal have dedicated spaces, so they get to focus but we don’t get the same luxury?

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Post ID: @am+1jn760agz

They are too deep into the lie. Can't back out as the spreadsheets have spoken.

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Post ID: @af+1jn760agz

I affectionately refer to RTO as "Return to Oneness". It's how we are winning as one.

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Post ID: @aa+1jn760agz

“ Just sitting here waiting for the next "Culture Survey".

Make sure to write the survey in such a way that it can’t be used against you.

Like : Sitting in office and taking teams call all day is such a great way of collaborating, and I hope someday there is a data point shown to us that how great has been RTO, or even the comparison in between WFH and RTO.

Why would we take some random person word for it.
Don’t quote me , I am just thinking out loud.

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Post ID: @a9+1jn760agz

Just sitting here waiting for the next "Culture Survey".

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Post ID: @a6+1jn760agz

"employees will never accept 5 day RTO"
That could change if the job tightens up. Since we've gone post-Covid, it has been an employee job market, with more openings than warm bodies.

Don't count on that lasting forever.

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Post ID: @a4+1jn760agz

RTO is forever more. We need to embrace it.

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Post ID: @a3+1jn760agz

Louder for those in the back row!

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Post ID: @a2+1jn760agz

Dinosaurs will dinosaur until they go extinct. Verizon knows what's up and is stealing whatever "talent" AT&T had left.

https://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-recruiter-email-att-employees-rto-mandate-remote-hybrid-2025-2

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