With the sale of Fiber and Small Cells, this means a massive amount of personnel will lose their jobs. This will include Fiber and Small cell area directors, market managers, project managers, construction personnel, outage and issue personnel, local market inventory and parts personnel including office and equipment buildings, government relations personnel, fiber sales, permitting personnel, NOC personnel, etc. to name a few. The cuts will be deep! Prayers to all affected!
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@14q+1jpg6gr6a The oddity here is that SCN techs actually put fiber solutions in their email signature when they don’t even touch the fiber side. Changing a fiber patch cable doesn’t qualify you as a solver of fiber issues. Next if they happen to power cycle the enterprise switch for a TMO site, their also have Enterprise experience. And that’s a big if, because if its not SC/DAS equipment, they refer it to Fiber.
Nobody bought the towers, they bought the small cells…
OP is right.
@19h+1jpg6gr6a Goes to show that you definitely don't know what you’re talking about . Operations most definitely does installation. What do you think all that MRC talk is about. Operations is who installs the CPEs and builds out the network as needed to support those CPEs. Go back to your data entry and pointless Teams meetings and let the adults talk.
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Okay, and? Once again why are you comparing installations with operation. You (or whoever) are complaining that other ops techs don't complete new installs... Well of course they don't, they're operations.
And definitely unlike the Tower “techs” now known as Site Managers.
@19h+1jpg6gr6a Enterprise Operations does both, unlike the SC “techs”.
You're confusing installations and operations. You guys aren't talking the same language.
You are absolutely correct.
They weren’t even integrated amongst themselves. There was a constant competition between the legacy organizations (Read: Light tower, Fibernet, etc), where they were constantly battling to show whose processes were “superior.” This was mainly due to whomever got chosen as the operating model would end up at the top of the corporate hierarchy. Even though it became obvious early on who would get the spot at the top, even 8 years later we would still be told not to communicate or collaborate with our peers in other regions. The entire culture around Network was extremely toxic while being veiled on Crown Castle values as a show. I imagine a lot of people were privy to this infighting, but it was pretty crazy behind the scenes and led to slow to little-to-no innovation.
On top of it, you would think the network side was unionized in some areas where there was 0 union presence with their absolute refusal to help outside of their job description.
Odd when Network brags about the skills they didn't perform on Towers too. It was supposed to be one portfolio with talents being used across all products. When you read old timers talk about glory days, they are referring to when we all worked together towards shared goals. Network was never integrated and never wanted to be.
No one cares.
SC4LIFE Enterprise is more than that. Anyone who has brought a PoP online knows that. Aside from racking and stacking, there’s scripting, provisioning an out of the box brand new node, then integrating into the network. When was the last time you actually commissioned a cell or DAS site or even optimized one. Oh wait, that’s all done by GCs. The only thing GCs are used for in Enterprise is to physically install the PoP equipment, then the Enterprise techs console directly to the equipment to provision and integrate to the network.
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And yes, I designed routes. How most of the markets do it is incredibly wrong.
Yes I know what an OTDR is, I was training people in their use.
And yes I know was a “filter” is (Crown Castle slang for a CWDM or DWDM ad/drop multiplexer).
There is a reason all of the regions were millions of dollars over budget with terrible MTTR. A very large portion of that is extremely bad engineering, another portion is extremely inefficient dispatching (goes hand-in-hand with the engineering), another portion is the Splicers can’t find and fix a broken fiber in under 4 hours — the ones who can sandbag their time to pad their pockets, and another reason is it takes you guys way too long on a restoration (between the slow splice times and bad burns).
It was well with the company’s ability to run a profitable fiber business (with a lot of streamlining and process changes), but it was staffed with id--ts from the top to the bottom. It is what it is, and is the reason the company is in the position it’s in now.
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Yeah, I’ve been doing fiber for almost 2 decades. You just exposed exactly my point by getting defensive. Most of you guys are abysmal at your jobs and need fiber engineering to hold your hands because you don’t have any troubleshooting skills to speak of.
I consistently held the lowest MTTR in the nation, and I never spoke to fiber engineering once. Learn to do your job better.
@qs+1jpg6gr6a I heard the SCN techs are keeping their fingers crossed for that manager to be split off to Zayo.
There’s a “manager” who shouldn’t be one. Zayo should be able to determine the usefulness of said “manager”.
Is my region the only one where small cells have dozens of active and passive components that fail or are upgraded fairly regularly or is this guy mistaken? Every small cell has fiber... It has all the components of the fiber side, plus all the components of the small cells, not to mention power. That doesn't even touch the DAS systems that we own that we're constantly working on for large events. What am I missing here?
@je+1jpg6gr6a And EQT won’t need much staff for Small Cells since it’s such a low maintenance asset to manage.
For the id--t that posted this blurb… obviously does not maintain small cell…. Sorry that everything on our side is not fire drill with everyone on an email.. “ Ack…. Onsite… sipped my coffee… plugged in my cable…. Testing…”. Smh…Zayo might just need less of that
Ah yes, the NY Ops tech makes their typical appearance. Sorry, you got sold as well.
@je+1jpg6gr6a And EQT won’t need much staff for Small Cells since it’s such a low maintenance asset to manage.
The crazy part is that Enterprise techs and SCN techs have the same title.
Crazy how many people are now interested in sc.
Yep - you’re talking about that guy in California market
@je+1jpg6gr6a Spot on! There’s one in particular that watches Service Now like a hawk. Talk about useless.
The layoffs will not occur on the fiber side till after the transition and Zayo identifies the redundant positions. Which is above 90%. All these worthless managers in Fiber will be trying to say they have SCN experience so that they get transitioned to the EQT company. There are some managers in the West who definitely fall into that category.
Look, Zayo doesn’t need ANY of CCF personnel. There are so many ex Zayo employees working at Crown for a reason. You’re best bet is to hope that you get parceled off to the new standalone SCN company.
I left over a year ago and whatever causes the stock price to go up is fine by me! I have another round of RSUs vesting, man!
I wish the doomers who want keep predicting the massive layoffs would quit. But my guess is they are unemployable else where so they complain and hope to get fired.
Idk why you're down voted, it's a valid point. The word is spelled correctly, the wrong word was used, but it's spelled correctly.
Not to mention it was probably a hasty auto complete issue anyway.
Acting like people are really typing out the entirety of "disincentivizes" with their thumbs 🙄
The OP of this thread is a very fragile person and I would recommend they just leave the company instead of making things up due to their unchecked instability.
lol and that’s the kind of people that work here that need to get out
They spell it right you cocky F. Maybe didn’t word it correctly but no spell check needed. Wow you couldn’t be more lame.
@de+1jpg6gr6a SPELL CHECK - *disincentivizes, not disincentives
A broken clock is right twice a day…
The only fiber guys who have a shot at being retained are folks in Colorado. That’s where they are hq’d and most of their job openings are.
I love the certainty in which people post. It’s like listening to the old drunkard at the bar talking politics. How about instead of spreading misinformation here, you meet us at Jackson’s some Thursday for happy hour, then you can armchair quarterback all you want instead of getting people worked up.
After seeing the worst possible outcome of the fiber being spun off and sold ( Zayo), I now consider myself lucky to be part of the Covid culling of 2000
Okay, let’s get real folks. We know there are going to be quite a few people from fiber and small cell get laid off. I’m not rooting for anybody to lose their jobs, it’s just common sense. The question now is how will this affect the supporting roles and even the tower side of the business? With a former American Tower guy at the helm, with Crown Castle be structured like them? What does that look like? Is the tower side still doing things in house that could be contracted out? I bet they look at every single position in the company to see if it is needed for the restructuring.
@d8+1jpg6gr6a no one bought towers, towers is staying, towers is the company as it has been for decades.
Hopefully this administration disincentives off shoring somehow. Keep the jobs here.