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Is it worth it as an experienced hire?

will they pay for relocation? will they buy your house? competitive salary? would you do it if you had the choice?

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Management is on crack

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Post ID: @19w+1jv8epwt1

My observation is that experienced hires are the first to be PIP once they squeeze what they need out of you. Most do not last more than 5-6 years. There’s always a new crop of willing victims.

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Post ID: @112+1jv8epwt1

If you need the money then go for it. And then get the he-l out as fast as you can.

This is not a place if you want a good career. I’ve seen too many broken spirit and traumatized people.

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Post ID: @m3+1jv8epwt1

The problem with being an experienced hire is that you aren't part of the club. You miss the first few years where you meet all the other robots in your career generation. You don't have the years left to be assessed as high potential or stewarded to high potential. So then you just kinda churn in a whirlpool. You'll be paid kinda well but don't expect to go anywhere much over where you were hired.

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Post ID: @jf+1jv8epwt1

Experienced hires aren’t seen as part of the family. They will hire you for a short term specific gap to fill. They won’t try to develop your career further.

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Post ID: @fc+1jv8epwt1

Don't you only have to stay one year until they cannot claw back relo payments? Asking for a friend...

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Post ID: @ey+1jv8epwt1

Yes, in US they will take care of relo, house, get you a competitive offer.

Then you’re in trouble.

If you want the relo location, suffer two years then leave.

Then again, why would someone want Houston? Or Baton Rouge? Or yikes Beaumont or Midland.

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Post ID: @ex+1jv8epwt1

Unless you’re coming in with a nepotism advantage or predetermined sponsor, you’re automatically given a shelf-life with a best-by date. Many are okay with this limitation while others waste countless years in denial of it.

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Post ID: @ee+1jv8epwt1

ExxonMobil is a fantastic company to work for. Employee are highly valued are respected.

Benefits regularly are improved

The CEO is a great guy

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Post ID: @e3+1jv8epwt1

run away as fast as you can!!! specially if your offer is in trading.

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Post ID: @e2+1jv8epwt1

Which country are you being offered employment in? Big layoffs in the UK currently.

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Post ID: @dw+1jv8epwt1

I joined as an experienced hire and been around for a few years now. Yes, the learning curve can be steep but it’s manageable. Pay is fantastic in the exec pool and yes they pay for relocation.

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Post ID: @dv+1jv8epwt1

For experienced hires, you do not have a long-term career. Just think of your career as a "transactional career" between ExxonMobil and yourself.

At best, you will be able to work for five years.

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Post ID: @d0+1jv8epwt1

They hire you, because they want you to train people, and they feel that you have trained the young ones, they will show the door. I have seen this in Midland. People with experience trained young engineers and then just they got PIP.

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Post ID: @ch+1jv8epwt1

Well … is your previous employer GM?

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Post ID: @c7+1jv8epwt1

Unless things have changed:

They will pay for relocation.

They will help sell your house, and if it doesn’t sell, buy it after 90 days. (Make sure you don’t sign any offers though. Needs to be XOM selling it if you want those benefits. Cartus should explain this.)

They will likely have a competitive salary package.

Would I do it again? It was a really great experience until it wasn’t. My performance didn’t change, my management did, and once that happened - my dream job that brought me joy and fulfillment, went to being the worst place on earth that tortured my soul.

Things can change on a dime. If you have thick skin and are prepared to weather storms, with zero knowledge regarding how long the sunny days - or Cat 5 hurricanes can last - and you aren’t traumatized by the thought of being ranked NSI, go for it.

You will gain experience that’ll be useful in some way - whether inside or outside of XOM. And, you’ll have an opportunity to bank a lot of money while you’re there, for however long it lasts!

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Post ID: @b2+1jv8epwt1

Just ask in your interview the typical success rate for experienced hires and you’ll have your answer to see how much they squirm. Seen far too many last 3 years max. Culture is too different and they give you no time to acclimate.

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Post ID: @at+1jv8epwt1

I did it before and would never do it again. Especially if you don’t have a compelling reason to change jobs. Getting up to speed at XOM is painful, because most of their methods and culture is not aligned with the rest of the industry. I left after 6 years and I’m now happy once again. Too much needless pain there

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Post ID: @a8+1jv8epwt1

You’ll be PIP’d within 5 years hands down. Stay a Hat and make bank.

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Post ID: @a5+1jv8epwt1

Yes, no, depends, only if i had no other decent option

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