Has anyone else noticed the growing toxicity of offshore leadership toward onshore FTEs, especially Americans?Or is everyone just too afraid to say it out loud?
Today, I had an encounter with my offshore director that was so profoundly disrespectful it finally pushed me to write this. It makes me wonder: does HR even care about what’s happening on the ground, or are they deliberately looking the other way while the culture burns?
What we are dealing with right now is a leadership vacuum that has been filled by toxic office politics. With offshore Indian teams, there is a pervasive lack of transparency, a culture of deceit, and managers who think it’s perfectly normal to lie and backstab to protect their own metrics. It’s a completely corrupt way of operating, and the onshore employees who actually care about the product are the ones paying the price.
Let me be clear: I understand the business case for outsourcing specific, targeted positions. That’s just the reality of the modern tech industry. But outsourcing pretty much entire scrum teams? That is a massive, fundamental mistake.
The drop in quality isn't just noticeable; it’s alarming. The code is suffering, the communication is fragmented, and things are getting visibly worse with every new offshore hire we onboard to replace an onshore FTE.
Leadership needs to wake up. They are treating this aggressive offshore push like a brilliant cost-saving measure, but in the long run, it is going to be the most costly mistake this company has ever made. If they keep letting this toxic management style run unchecked while sacrificing quality for cheaper labor, they are going to sink this ship straight to the ocean floor.
You can't outsource a bad strategy, and right now, the strategy is broken. Of you expect people from a broken system and from one of the most corrupt countries in the world to save this company you are TOTALLY wrong. Everything they ever touch turns to dust. The ONLY thing these people are interested in is their wallet and will do anything to make sure it's fat.
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Are you kidding? The leadership has made this company an Indian company which is pretending to be American to milk government money. It is a money laundering to India in disguise. Haven’t you seen the leaders dancing in India? Doesn’t matter how much complain or whine here. Our country’s leaders have sold the souls already and looking just for their own and their family’s interest.
Hemsley doesn't care. More culture cr-p while offshoring to people who have a terrible working culture in general.
Let's not pretend onshore leadership isn't insanely toxic in most of this company.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Once offshore leadership takes over a team they immediately put in US hiring freezes and mandate managers only hire for offshore positions. Every offshore director and senior director I ever had cared more about some metric than our customers or product. They just want to look good without doing the actual hard work.
Ours freely belittles other onshore employees in group chats. Treats us like we're an annoyance, a problem, and gets away doing the bare minimum of what normally would be expected out of any other manager. Feels like we're being managed by a child.
And no one gives any craps about it.
On shore manager seem like heaven once you deal with offshore managers.. words can't begin to describe how grossly incompetent and toxic they are, they behave like politicians, not engineering or any other professionals for that matter. They are utterly gross to deal with, talk to, work with. Simply put they are horrible all over, arrogant, stupid, condescending, incompetent, corrupt and simple don't care about tht company or the healcare system.. why would they? They are foreigner working for a company that's got nothing to do with their life, culture or county. They treat it as an outsourced alien entity.
Another sign of how toxic UHG is. While I’ve worked with decent people on H1B, UHG has lunatics with Sr mgmnt titles bullying and laying off US Citizens. This shouldn’t happen. So it’s not a wonder that they would make Americans report to offshore managers. Disgusting! Again this HR and legal is the grossest. They don’t oversee anything. They enable and exacerbate toxicity, then collect a paycheck for it. Bottom feeders!
When we got put under offshore management we basically stopped hearing from them completely. Then they would act like the sky is falling any time they needed to communicate with the person above them, and would crowdsource their communications from us and copy/paste
I work on an internal automation tool team. I asked an app team what java security settings we would need for their java app to work. They hit me with "I don't know".
It has never been amazing here but the joyless grind is really starting to weigh on me. If anything goes wrong or “takes too long” the condescension from my offshore leadership is just a bit much to put up with.
@OP Everything is so chaotic nowadays. No one follows SOPs/JAs, common courtesy out the window - it’s a free-for-all. NO accountability. I’m shocked at how quickly things are falling apart company-wide.
Some of the statements made during the Town Hall actually made me gasp! Leadership is living in a dream world or something.
Hoping things will turn around, or at least improve a bit.