Thread regarding SAP layoffs

@187 Wow, in some way I’m not surprised at all. Joule cannot get even the basics right, but hey SAP gives AI roles to friends of friends and not to the people who could actually fix that mess.

News coming out of AIOAI workshop from Munich that Early Adaptor Program with selected customers is postponed to August because Joule didn't worked as expected in Agent Creation and was failing to give any results after the creation flow in Joule Work.

@126 Too true, it isn't even aware of what apps we have, tried asking it to find the compensation assistant once and it had no idea what i was talking about, try asking it what tasks you need to do and even not knowing our unusable ui i could find it fast than joule. It might be great at producing fancy reports for c suite suit fillers but like most ai is a painfully expensive toy for most of us. Its probably why the c suite are so enamoured with AI because there jobs are mostly to just be placeholders for the board and shareholders so are actually incredibly easy to replace so it looks magic.

@q0 I have not seen any Joule use cases that were not cumbersome and a backwards step from just using the Fiori App. There is a huge value void with Joule.

@pf on top of that, Joule is led by people who are friends of Mr Herzig and Rueden. There are colleagues with more expertise to contribute to the domain, but blocked entry to the Business AI boy club and mafia. Joule is an embarrassment.

@j9 Joule is already backed by third parties, it's just an interface on top of old IBM junk and the frontier labs models. The big issue is that the majority of SAP's software is decades old running on top of very expensive hardware to make it seem performant but makes for poor apis for agents to run.

Joule is the backbone of Joule Work and Joule Studio and CK and PH has accepted at d-com in Mannheim that Joule is not performing as expected.

Project Nova is not even started to train Joule on SAP Customer data. No matter how many All in on AI workshops they conduct, the outcomes will not make an impact until and unless Joule starts to give decent outcomes.

I can see that if it goes in the same direction then the board will be forced to acquire a Joule replacement company or tie up with a third party provider on which SAP data and Customer data can be trained but it would be like giving your 50 year process and business knowledge to a LLM provider. If SAP thinks, its a piece of cake then they should learn from Apple and Siri fiasco who eventually have to integrate Gemini from Google to make it meaningful.

Looking for logical arguments here.

As a matter of fact, the people who post here on behalf of Indians are not Indians and just rage baiting the audience. Stick to the subject of the topic and contribute positively and ignore the hate mongers. Thank You!

@d8 AfD clowns like you have no place in our offices.

I'd rather work with an Indian (or any non-German) colleague than with you.

If we closely examine our progress, we’ve fallen behind in nearly every category. In 2024, Oracle surpassed us in the ERP business, and Salesforce is on the verge of surpassing us in revenue. Platforms have been disastrous from the beginning, aside from the constant name changes - HCP, SCP, BTP, and BAIP. The less I say about AI the better! We managed to bury reasonably successful companies we acquired, effectively grinding them to dust, not just the acquired company but the entire vertical. Do you still believe this company and its current leadership have the potential to turn this around ?

@a7 he posts his secondary school GPA on his LinkedIn profile???

Guys , just collect ur paychecks and tell ur boss he/she is the best . Don’t go above 250 k in salary in USA same in Germany .

Your comments on BTP leaders is spot on. Good example of why this company is struggling.

Who is the new leader?

Great observations. At this point, whatever executives tell in a call, are just theatrics. No, they do not have our back, and such a reorganizations are hurting us really bad.