I understand the anger against GK, which is valid but is it necessary to throw all Indians under the bus? As a WASP who has worked with several competent Indian origin employees over the years who even went on to become American citizens, I just find all this stereotyping against an entire community a sad projection of what our country has become. Always thought the USB community was above it. Every group without exceptions has competency across the board in similar percentages so I don't understand this new and rising sentiment. Just venting, I guess.
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There is severe racism and colorism among Indians in India. There is also discrimination across caste systems and regional politics that would make the U.S. blush. Good luck being an African, or a woman, in India.
Even the employee based engineers from India refuse or hate to work with their offshore counterparts. Doesn’t that say something?
People are confusing racism with being too soft.
@as OP here. You nailed it. Goal should be to improve the business by hiring competent people irrespective of their origin, race or s-x. Life under Andy was easy but business definitely suffered and it showed. We are still reeling from the Union Bank acquisition, a poor choice by Andy. Not saying GK is perfect as her first all-company call showed she has quite a ways to go. But she chose to prioritize business health over employee accolades and I applaud her for that bold decision. After all no one likes to be disliked.
"Asian American", trying to group the scammers with the East Asian (China, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan) workforce...
As noted below, the disparity is incredible:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita
Born in the U.S. Asian American here. I just want the most QUALIFIED people in roles. Straight, g-y, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, unicorn it doesn't matter. Just hired the most qualified person. During my time here, we've put the most "connected" people in leadership roles that made friends with the right people and posted pretty stuff on their LinkedIn feeds. This has brought disastrous results, just look at the stock during Andy's reign. We were focused on being a feel good company rather than a revenue generating company. Why? Lack of leadership, we hired/promoted the wrong people for the wrong reasons and the results show it. This bank basically needs an en--a.
Will bringing on so many Indians abroad come with problems? Yes. There will be cases of fraud that will originate from the Chennai office. There will be underhanded "deals" to push more business Cognizant's way. We've basically sc--wed ourselves over by being focused on the wrong things during Andy's era. Life way easy, life was good, and business was bad due to inept leadership. Poor leaders from that era will need to move on from U.S. Bank and will need to be backfilled by the most qualified talent, be it internal or external.
From the perspective of working with offshore in Ops, this makes sense. Performance has as limit where it absolutely craters.
Note the reference to a literal fascist. America, welcome the Hindutvas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindutva
Holy **. It's a system of importing "Donald Trump Jr."s.
@a5 here. Maybe men here whining about well everything should take 11 mins to watch this video by Jordan Peterson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-W0LGoBXRg It will help explain why Indian and other foreigners are able to succeed while the high and might white man is struggling.
Us immigrants played by the rules, your rules for decades and now when it is time for harvesting the gains, if you expect us to leave quietly then you are gravely mistaken. Compete on the global stage and win. Do not expect a pass just because you were born in this awesome country. Your ancestors didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita
China 14,874
India 2,813
India is literally 7x poorer than China because of corruption, nepotism and the caste system (similar populations). As Gunjan said, employees will not be evaluated by their productivity.
Welcome to why the third world is the third world. "They aren't sending their best", even the d-mb** is right. They're sending their fail sons/daughters connected to the Brahmin caste.
One of my best coworkers in my career was one of them. Unfortunately throughout my entire career working with them, they were part of the approximately 10% that weren't absolutely worthless and were able to do the job to an average level or above.
The problem with the ones that do everything right and are good is that they are going to be overshadowed by the scammers and cheaters that are overrunning the system. Their culture literally values achievement at all costs. There is no concept of achieving morally. Given that, they will run over anyone to get to where they need to be. And this is at scale. The only things they absolutely care about are money and power at all costs. That is their marker of success. Not quality of work or impact to society. It really is that simple.
It doesn't take a long analysis to look at their home and see the consequences of that limited thinking.
I don't fault the ones that play by the rules, actually tell the truth on their resumes, and actually do the job correctly. Its all of the lying on resumes, sending in other people to do interviews, bodyshopping, etc that I have a problem with. They are ruining it for the good ones.
Period.
@a2 cos y'all ain't leader material anymore homie ...
Indian origin American here. Zero fu--s given to what anyone else thinks. It is my life and I will live it as I wish within the boundaries of the law. Isn't that what Liberty and Freedom is all about?
Over the past decade us folks developed thick skin to survive through baseless allegations of incompetent locals and their lack of drive and ambition to keep up in a global world. Every group uses their advantages to their benefit. No shame in it.
I ignore the keyboard warriors and passive aggressive id--ts but make no mistake ... if someone threatens me or my family in-person, I WILL retaliate with what ever it takes to win. And win I will.
Touchy subject you've started, OP. Right or wrong, downvoted you will be.
- Yoda
Search “Bank of Texas board” on google images.
No. We are being invaded & shut-out from leadership roles & growth from these people.
The issue is once they become a manager, they will most likely hire their own majority of the time.