Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Digital was perfect engineering company that believed Sales is not needed

acquired by PC company (Compaq)

Than again acquired by Sales company (HP)

So no, there isn't cyber security or other bs engineering jobs that outpay sales and I know as I done both in last 25-years at top levels.

I have spent my career only working for companies that sales. Sales pay the bills and they work like he-l. Always respect and help sales people.

OP, this is your boss’ boss. There should be an invite in your inbox in a few.

Agenda:

• transitioning you to 0.5 FTE since you only work 20 hours a week
• video games
• your attitude

Because in the Sales world, Dell is damn near the Golden ticket for any sales job out there. I was at Dell for 10 years, and now I'm at a partner making 5x for doing less. Many people I've known go from median-level sales positions at Dell and then move into a Director or VP role at other companies. Big ones too.

Everything ok? Did someone hurt you?

I suspect this is coming from a place of insecurity and jealousy. In times like this, people who play video games and work 2 hours a day need to be cut and not the hardworking sales people that are working to keep the lights on. To OP, grow the f up.

Without your sales teams, there's no business. How do you like that? Also, sales are the hardest working people because they are DIRECTLY impacted by their performance. If they don't perform, they don't make their OTE.

To the OP who posted that utter cowshite, trying breaking other people will never fix you.

That's the problem. You are only making same money as account manager level 3. The are level 4 and 5 to go, then AE level 1,2,3,4,5 & 6. You are nowhere near the salary level of a good professional salesperson.

When sales stops…the revenue declines. C-level doesn’t care, they make their money. The company will go down now. Sakes are special people, they need to be able to spin the message up and down the corporate ladder. The best/worst sales people think they are product design mentors, because the sales people are “ in front” of key customers. If you don’t solve customer problems why would they buy from you?

You're the reason that micro managers exsit

ya, they're not bragging about how much they make now.

Without sales, you don't have a business. Furthermore, we're all in sales. You are selling your skills like the rest of us.

Spoken like a true neckbeard incel lol.

Good luck to those that got laid off. LinkedIn has been a fantastic way to network and see what open positions are out there. Partners and competitors are eager to hire the talent that Dell let go. A good sales rep or sales engineer is not easy to come by.

Your missing the most important part... Sales is a profit center, as someone else stated any other roles -while necessary to create and or keep departments operational- are cost centers. They cost the owner/share holders money. Without sales (profits coming in) constantly, companies wouldn't be in business for long. In the dog eat dog world (capitalist global markets) in which we live in sales is a necessary occupation. If we lived in the utopic futurstic Star Trek universe (where people don't have to worry about mundane things like money to pay for their mere existance) then yes, everyone could enlighten themselves and pursue much more self rewarding aspirations and goals. The sales persona -although grotesque and who's existence you find incomprehensible- is very much needed and in demand in our current existsnce. Don't bite the hand that indirectly feeds you.

You're post is quite disrespectful, I am sure your best friend will appreciate how you valued his work.

If karma exists, you will be laid off soon and rethink your harsh comment.

Everyone else...I wish you best of luck.

Your an id--t.

Sales is not a dime a dozen. The team we have working our accounts you literally cant buy what they know and the experience they have, the customer relationships they have earned.

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it

And yet every major tech company is run by sales people. Every single one. I get what you were saying sales does take a very specific type of personality. It’s a personality that’s not adverse to risk, is willing to bet on themselves, and will make decisions.

I have seen plenty of people come in and out of sales from disparate backgrounds, it’s amazing that it’s always some intrinsic internal skill, that I honestly don’t think can be taught, that makes or breaks the sales person.

Anyhow, the whole discussion is moot. Engineers are brilliant, however, every single bit of development they do wouldn’t be worth a penny if you didn’t have a salesforce out there, presenting it to the public.

The sooner you learn that it takes a team of different skills to make it work the sooner you’ll be successful.

You sound like a legacy Dell guy. I came from EMC side in Enterprise Sales. It was uncommon for Enterprise reps sell 100-200mil year and made 7 figures salaries. Of course Dell is too cheap for that and lost a lot good sales reps. Dell sales qualifies you to sale pc’s at Best Buy LOL.

You probably just brought alot of unwanted scrutiny to cyber security.

This has to have been written by an actual mo--n.

You realize Sales pays your salary, right? What a clown

What is your actual point? Are you better? Salespeople are knuckleheads?

Thanks for that.
Its a great weight of my mind knowing your around.