Is RTP closing or not? I mean it has been empty forever, way before COVID. Wouldn’t surprise me. RIP RTP?
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It’s all moving to Atlanta, where young talent is cheap and available locally.
RTP was not vacant before COVID. That is just a lie. The only true office building that was really vacant was 4. In my time I have worked in 3,6,7 & 8 and only building 6 was light. There were times in others i had to circle and circle to find a place to sit. RTP could go down to less buildings 7-12 but there is the issue with data centers scattered throughout campus. San Jose was a whole different story. I have seen even building 10 almost empty most of the day. After 3 there it was dead. Still too much real estate in SJC. People wise they could go down to 9-13 in SJC and have more than enough space.
We are constantly receiving gear from SJC, there's no way RTP is closing. There are works for a large lab to consolidate gear.
to ensure that our customers continue to receive the same level of support and service they have come to expect from Cisco.
As your customers we know better than to expect better but we want better.
yes rtp is closing
Who TF cares. No one goes in the office anyways
Before RTP can close, they have to figure out what to do w/ the existing Labs and Data Centers. I certainly don't know the purpose of each lab, how critical it is to the lab owner's business function, and whether or not it can be done elsewhere.
The Data Centers in RTP were supposed to house redundancy for apps hosted in SJC, with 25-33% of apps being hosted in RTP and having redundancy in SJC. Then Richardson started being the other "production" site in parallel with SJC and RTP became more of the "backup" site.
When Cisco announced that they were going to consolidate the buildings in RTP and do away with assigned office desks to embrace the (new) Hybrid work model with "drop-in" collaboration and quiet work zones in just a few buildings based on badging rates (attendance), people w/ labs complained that they needed seating near their labs because they went in and out of the labs constantly and having to sit in one building and visit a lab in another building was a major annoyance and waste of time/productivity.
I recall, from back in the days where all systems at Cisco were "bare metal" HP "pizza boxes" instead of huge UCS racks that run many VMs on shared resources, that the labs and data centers had space and power issues in each building. Granted, w/ using UCS racks instead of racks and racks full of 1U HP pizza boxes, each drawing power, the space utilization is way down and the power consumption is much better, but it still limits how much equipment you can put in each lab and data center. And once the building hits it's power grid capacity, it doesn't matter if you renovate the building to put in another lab/data center space because the power distribution to the building can't be upgraded and the power capacity limits within the building can't be upgraded without spending huge amounts of money, way more than it gains in return on investment.
It's going to be fun to see how the "consolidation team" responsible for the labs, much less the data centers, are going to be able to shuffle the current stuff into as few buildings as needed and leave themselves room for each BU to "grow". Getting the building at capacity and then having to remove something to bring in something new is a major time suck. I remember those days and do not want to go back to that time. My bet is that they'll be lucky to get rid of 3 buildings, and they'll be the ones with the least/smallest labs which will have to be consolidated into the other existing labs, which may need to have each owner cut back on what they actually need.
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Yay! RtP news back in front! SJ news what you got?? It’s all gone quiet over there (etc etc)
It's Sr leadership trying to create chaos and discount the real stuff here on the site. Ignore it. There are way too many people in RTP and not enough room in Richardson to accommodate the work that requires the regional work like TAC. Cisco will cut back in San Jose more before we cut RTP. Besides, despite what is said publicly, the culture is slowly changing back to "be in the office or else", so the office space will be needed. We're just playing the magnet vs mandate game to help Webex PR for hybrid work as we try to win back what we lost to Zoom.