while keeping slackers and pretenders here?
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@rpw+1nFForsR That is so ridiculous that it almost doesn’t warrant a response. When thousands are laid off in rapid recurring LRs, then it’s not based on performance. If so, Cisco needs to fire their hiring mgrs because that’s some lousy hiring.
Make yourself feel better by believing your fantasy. However, it’s often simply the bottom line that dictates who goes. If a person or team is perceived as expensive and not critical, then you will most likely get impacted. You can be a superstar, but you, your team or your function simply isn’t a priority to leadership.
When I was laid off, my function no longer made sense because they merged teams and didn’t need duplicate roles. They even asked me my opinion and I agree that my job didn’t make sense any longer. It was a win/win to take the package, but no one at any time ever thought it was based on performance. It seldom is in LRs. That’s truly ridiculous.
It’s political and has nothing to do with talent.
This time I see many great talents leaving, which is really sad and unfair while another team with similar function under the same org got to stay just because of favoritism
I got a bunch of RB all in the US who have continuously had more work and responsibility put on them that want more money. The response to the vendor by manager? ‘Sorry, they’re already too expensive and if we have to add more money to an SOW, I’m told we’re going to have to replace them with people in India for 1/3 the cost.’
Remember that when execs talk about ‘how much they care about the Cisco family,’ or when anyone else tries to connect the ideas of ‘corporate America’ and ‘Patriotism’ together.
So you got an award for doing a useless job well. Congrats. You got fire because what you did didn’t bring value.
Cost. Location. Wrong place at the wrong time. Strategic direction. Many reasons.
The best thing one can do is (sadly) NOT document process or knowledge.
IF you are a go-to person, and in demand for your expertise; sharing that knowledge, training others; helping others...is just going to allow others to take YOUR JOB.
Experiencing this first hand - leadership team are as focused as to meet targets and get their unrealistically large bonuses. Come he-l or high water, they will cheat the numbers and move deals dates to make their targets. They don’t give a rats a$$ about the people on the ground who really built Cisco.
To the poster who said "I know the politically correct thing..." etc. #1: You're an a-hole and extremely insensitive #2: I literally got an award for performance last week #3) Everyone in my group with the same title/job function were let go #4) The company has been pumping money into my group and the group has made no sales (that part has nothing to do with me). So, besides being super rude, you're effing wrong. Also, why be a jerk when people are losing their jobs? It's unnecessary. And there's a big difference between being "fired" and being "laid off" during restructuring. I get why management is cutting costs in our department. Lack of ROI. Nothing to do with individual performance. More to do with those who are making the management decisions in the group.
"I know the politically correct thing to say is that people are LRed as no fault of their own, but get real…if they were good they wouldn’t be getting fired."
Cisco is not a performance based company. Laying off 30,000+ people that aren't making enormous salaries is not performance based cost cutting. It's mentally ill executives profiting from creating chaos.
If jobs were eliminated due to performance people would have defined roles & responsibilities with quarterly performance updates. Deliverable goals and performance targets.
We can get 4-6 contractors in India for the cost of one dev in SJC. Plus we don’t carry overheads like bonuses and health insurance. It’s corporate greed.
We are so understaffed already and we just lost more people. The do more with less attitude it backwards.
@rpw+1nFForsR This is most ignorant thing you can say at this moment. Get off your high horse and really open your eyes. You have no ideas. There so many talented people that truly invested their time and energy into positions that have been impacted. You probably think that you are a gift to mankind, Not!
One reason: cost
They became too expensive. Replacing them with h1b workers is more budget friendly. Even if the quality of work suffers. But hey the bottom line looks better so the ELT gets their bonus.
I know the politically correct thing to say is that people are LRed as no fault of their own, but get real…if they were good they wouldn’t be getting fired.