Yes. Most of my department is fifty or over. No young people. So young people are being discriminated against.
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Yes , their Employee Rationalization Dept has been targeting people with pensions and near full pensions. Obviously older demo. These are 1000s of job that have been eliminated due to Stankeyism . They extort everyone to sign waiver by withholding severance if you are considering legal action. THIS IS AGE DISCRIMINATION TO AVOID PAYING FULL PENSION. Many have been within months but if you dont meet the modified rule of 75 sorry charlies you GET THE STANKEY 50% HAIRCUT . Government pensions are completely different
yes - they want people out of the pension asap
@Post ID: @1pvj+1oWGyOgB - regarding "att has a higher proportion of older employees." - FALSE
AT&T Employee Average Age via zippia.
Less than 18 years 1%
18-20 years 8%
20-30 years 53%
30-40 years 23%
40+ years 13%
In this more recent employee lawsuit against AT&T every employee selected for surplus status was over the age of 40 totaling 11 employees. This case was disposed with prejudiced by the court.
"Per the ADEA Listing, there were eleven (11) employees in the Channel Marketing
and Operations organization that were selected for surplus. No other employees in the Channel Marketing and Operations organization, including substantially younger employees, reporting to Pegues were included on the ADEA Listing. All the other employees, including substantially younger employees, reporting to Pegues were not selected for surplus and were retained by AT&T."
https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Pennsylvania_Eastern_District_Court/2--20-cv-05419/THOMPSON_v._AT%26T_MOBILITY_SERVICES_LLC/1/
Here is one fact, Network announced layoffs and large group of new college hires at the same town hall in 2022.
Let’s connect the dots here as Stankey would say. Why is above scenario happening, while company has best in class technical training for employees to learn and apply new technologies? This is just another form of re-badging, out with highly paid employees, in with lower paid staff.
I received my surplus notice on a Friday in this February. Having signed an offer for a new job 3 days before, I thanked my manager for her consoling sentiments and said I look forward to receiving the severance payment soon. The best revenge is to live a great life leaving. ✌️
every layoff.
why do you think they put lawyers as vps in technology organizations.
I've seen both age and race-based discrimination, it's hidden in plain sight, one of many examples person 27+/- y/o who totally lacked the experience or skill set for a senior sales role was positioned by leadership to easily succeed given a better territory with a large customer base and noticeably low quota targets based on the modules run-rate, then given a progression despite not meeting their targets, saved in a re-org and given a new job supporting a product he knew nothing about, given accolades and recognition for large wins they did not support. Just a normal day a T
Why would anyone complain about how things used to be? T stock used to actually grow, they used to lead the industry, they used to offer a pension, they used to insure individuals at $0, and they used to make age & term offers rather than layoff. Not much to complain about.
Oh wait, were you trying to take a shot at the "old guy"? If that's the case, you might try proof reading next time; that, or grow your vocabulary.. Here, let me help - replace "used to be." with "have changed.". Or, you could just change the word "complaining" to "reminiscing".
I witness old guys complaining about how things used to be.
When ATT gave all the 1st levels in my entire organization the same title, I knew where that was going. They are trying to hit the highest paid, which will usually equate to older employees. Also screwing folks in Ameritech region oit of lots of pension $
No. I haven’t experienced it. They’re an equal opportunity hater.
Yes. Because of my age, my ability to sleep my way up the management ladder has been unfairly hindered.
Witness age discrimination all the time along with years of DEI initiatives that have made the white majority underrepresented in the workforce, excluding the execs. Discrimination is immoral for all, get back to merit, competency, bring back real training to level the field and treat employees as assets again.
AT&T is always hiring and having layoffs so younger people are moving on due to poor leadership, lack of training, upward mobility, treating most as a number, constant reogs and toxic work environment.
No. Because of frequent layoffs and hiring freezes over the past many years, att has a higher proportion of older employees. So inevitably, older employees have been part of surplus and other adverse actions.
Here's a question. What should att do to prove they don't discriminate based on age? Let everyone over 40 work wherever they want for as many years as they want? With things the way they are today, that isn't practical.
It's the pension.. I was laid-off in 2017. 47 years old with 20 yrs and monetarily rewarded as a top performer all but the 1st five yrs. The pension is a huge expense and it gets more expensive every year you're on the payroll. It all started when Stephenson tried to buy T-mobile and was penalized $5b. It got worse with his purchase of DTV and WB. These decisions sent AT&T into a tale spin and sent them on their seemingly never ending search to cut OpEx. The low hanging fruit is your employee that hired in with a pension, i.e., 50+ today. They ARE targeting the older employee. It provides immediate results that compound year over year. That's not to say others aren't included. All of the Ma Bells have shifted their talent base due to legacy & sunset technology so layoffs in these areas are expected. The difference is, people know when they're in a legacy group..
Has there been age discrimination? You sure better believe it. I was the oldest in my group. My numbers were as good if not better than others. Knock on wood because I was older I was smart enough to put enough money away so that I could survive. I was probably in better shape than those younger than me. Between the statistics HR gave me and Stankey’s stupid comments I think I would have a great case, but do I really want to work for these people after suing them. I doubt it. I’d rather just like to see the board get some cohonies and replace the people running this company into the ground
I have never ever seen it.
Other than the CEO openly stating that there are too many older people still on the payroll, and that you can expect efforts to get rid of them to continue?
@"The same folks complaining about age discrimination cheer the end of DEI programs and anything they feel is a perceived attack on white people. So…. I do not care. Maybe the oldsters..."
Just wait til you get older you'll have a different view.
Also, very sad you're calling out whxte people, remember God created all of mankind in his image.
They funnel the older workers into workgroups with a short shelf life and send the younger ones to more profitable workgroups with all these re orgs that never make any sense to the average worker.
The same folks complaining about age discrimination cheer the end of DEI programs and anything they feel is a perceived attack on white people. So…. I do not care. Maybe the oldsters are not qualified enough for the future of this company. Now the company is free to hire people who are more qualified they just happen to be young.
Now we have a lot of people boo-hooing b/c something they can’t control like age means their job is at risk and they may have a harder time getting hired elsewhere. This conundrum sounds awfully similar to other forms of discrimination hmmm….
Yet I’m supposed to be concerned about folks being let go due to age but many of the old folks can’t see that all forms of discrimination are in the same boat.
I really hope age discrimination laws are struck down. Can’t wait to see so many old bigots suffer.
No, but there do need to be incentives for having a more balanced work force. My office floor really does look like a retirement home.
Most everyone I’ve seen or heard getting let go are at or near retirement age. Then there’s the townhall Stankey comments. Plus you don’t see older workers climbing the ranks. It’s like you hit 50 and where you are is where you stay for L2 and below office people. Still a small chance to climb in your 40s, but they are usually only promoting 30’s anymore.
"I agree, this is a National issue. Always hard to prove because HR creates their own pool of employees in the same class. I spoke with an attorney when it happened to me. He said so true but very hard to prove!"
Perhaps, but now we have our Beloved Leader Stankey's words from 2Q Town Hall to support your case.
I haven’t seen it. Everyone I work with is 50ish so of course layoffs are older people. It’s all there is in my area.
Sure the data prepared by HR will support that. Cook those books!
Nope, AT&T is an EOE. Data will support that.
Nope. Layoffs are one area where T is equal opportunity..
I agree, this is a National issue. Always hard to prove because HR creates their own pool of employees in the same class. I spoke with an attorney when it happened to me. He said so true but very hard to prove!
Not just here but all over. People get upset thou when a company hires minors for some reason.