Thread regarding USAA layoffs

"Career Progression" For Remote Employees

Does anyone actually believe that opportunities will be afforded to remote employees? All leadership has done is correct a verbal misstep by Wayne. The direction to frontline managers is to hire people that can support hybrid. To think anything else is just wishful thinking.

Before anyone replies with hate and shade, I believe anyone who wants to work remote should be allowed to. I am not trying to stir the pot. I am just trying to keep everyone grounded in reality.

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Lots of hate on WFH employees here. I get it...you are pi---d because they are at home and you're not. But please remember that most WFH employees either moved away during the pandemic WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND BLESSING OF USAA or have been remote for many years. Just like the bst of requiring those hired as remote to become hybrid employees...many of who live a hour or more from the office, essentially ending the careers of employees who have done nothing other than work where USAA said they could work is lying to employees. Both are equal in their betrayals of the trust we employees had in the company that we all, until recently, actually thought was fundamentally different that other companies. Turns out it was all bullsh-t.

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Post ID: @7xex+1oz14Jx3

Oof, bear through all those typos, sorry

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Post ID: @1tfu+1oz14Jx3

@mqu+1oz14Jx3
I’m actually not a remote worker, I’m a hybrid worker getting screwed over. I’m just not taking it out on remote folks. I have graduate degrees as well, so it’s not like people can’t get screwed over who are successful and educated. You’re missing the point. The point is that you’re taking it on and people who earned wfh because you’re jealous, when we should be directing that ire at EMG, who are creating this situation. They WANT you to guilt trip the remote workers. So you’re assumption was way off base, and like I said, you’re acting out of jealousy.

@1pun+1oz14Jx3
Again, y’all are assuming that I’m a remote worker and I should “get over myself “, when in fact I’m in the same boat as everyone else with hybrid getting mostly taken away. But neither of you are trolls, so aside from the rude cr-p, let me respond to this part “It was always going to be a temporary situation.” NO, for some of us hired during the pandemic, USAA was promising people hybrid work was here to stay during the negotiating stage, and in some cases we had a choice about other opportunities or staying with prior employers. So now do you understand why we’re so resentful of them going back on their word? You are right about one thing, I think they lied from the start and had no intention of staying hybrid unless the pandemic persisted for longer.

As to your question about people hired on before the pandemic, that’s a bit trickier. I’m not sure what they were and weren’t promised. However, if they were promised that their job would stay remote or stay hybrid, they shouldn’t have yanked it away. If they weren’t promised that, then… su-ks, then, tears or not, there’s not really a question of the company being immoral.

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Post ID: @1hah+1oz14Jx3

@wqq+1oz14Jx3

You are calling other people d-mb but your own post is ignorant to boot. Remote work was a good solution to a temporary problem. Other tech companies like Amazon and Meta are bringing employees back to the office even if those employees were hired remote. Working remote because of the pandemic was not a long-term benefit that was earned. It was always going to be a temporary situation.

I'm curious as to your thoughts about USAA employees that were hired prior to the pandemic and then decided to move elsewhere. Their original commitment was to work on-site and they took advantage of the pandemic to try to continue working remote permanently. Should those employees be allowed to continue to work remotely? What about employees who couldn't relocate during the pandemic? Tough luck for them I guess in your mind.

Do us all a favor and get over yourself.

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Post ID: @1pun+1oz14Jx3

@wqq+1oz14Jx3

I won't shed a tear either you d-nozzle. And it's not jealousy either. I have two engineering degrees and work to continue to improving my skills every day. I have done plenty to advance my own career. It is just possible that myself and many others don't want to commute to a worksite so we can sit on Zoom calls all day with people like you that aren't contributing to USAA's culture because you feel entitled to continue working remote. Did that thought ever cross your dense skull? Or were you too busy worrying about what you were promised?

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Post ID: @mqu+1oz14Jx3

@syc+1oz14Jx3
So commit to wfh or hybrid when you need the employees, then sn---h it away as soon as you can afford to do so? People wonder why successful professionals switch jobs so often, it’s because companies are so willing to sc--w over their employees.

This “I won’t shed a tear” garbage is just jealousy, but here’s why it’s d-mb. That person may have worked hard to get a better degree(s), work experience, skill set, etc, and it is their right to use that to get higher pay, hybrid or wfh, whatever. If the pandemic played a part in driving that need, who cares, tough for the employer, it’s what you committed to. If you didn’t get that commitment because you didn’t generate enough value as an employee, no one is shaming you, but you should be ashamed for thinking no one else deserves more pay or a benefit if they worked hard for it.

That is DIFFERENT than having all managers wfh and staff in office because that sets a terrible tone, but that is bad planning on leaders parts, even that is probably not the fault of the managers themselves.

There is a difference between expecting the company to honor its commitments vs feeling entitled.

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Post ID: @wqq+1oz14Jx3

My house is kind of hot do they keep the office cool?

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Post ID: @nst+1oz14Jx3

@ygl+1oz14Jx3

Apparently you didn't get the memo. If it wasn't for the pandemic, remote employees in IT would never have been hired in the fordt place. Remote IT employees were the FAR exception to the rule at USAA before the pandemic. So for all your hand-wringing and complaining about the 60-mile radius, I personally won't shed a tear when you are all pushed out eventually.

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Post ID: @syc+1oz14Jx3

I know of someone who is now getting a new opportunity so there is some truth. It is a limited experience role though that has been posted for awhile. I am happy for her.

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Post ID: @plr+1oz14Jx3

The amount of jealous rage some folks direct at employees who are allowed to stay remote FOR NOW is disheartening. It’s not like everyone outside the magic (and nonsensical, and arbitrary) 60 mile radius got together and approached Wayne and Co. with a plan to collectively sc--w over those within it.
“Hey, Wayne and Co! All of us Outside the Circles would like to
pi-s off everyone Inside the Circles! If you can do this in a way that ensures they’ll hate us:

  1. for something we have no control over, and
  2. because we temporarily have what they still want, it would be perfect!”
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Post ID: @ygl+1oz14Jx3

Remote does not equate to not paying for gas or daycare. You all sound extremely salty.

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Post ID: @zzm+1oz14Jx3

Since the pandemic, the employees have had the upper hand. Now, the strategy is to pit the employees against each other to divide and conquer. The goal is to erode any gains the workers have made. This technique proves successful because most workers are short-sighted and will give in to company wishes for a chance to stick it to a fellow employee working remotely, not realizing what they're taking away from themselves.

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Post ID: @kcj+1oz14Jx3

Personally, I think remote jobs will become a “dead-end”. That’s not where the company is focused. Promotions for those still in remote jobs will be more difficult than for those who are in the office. You might be able make a lateral move, but even that may be challenging.

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Post ID: @lho+1oz14Jx3

Remote employees get to sit in their underwear all day while we have to go into the office 4 days a week and if we dont we are the ones that get penalized. Nobody cares what happens to them

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Post ID: @mcq+1oz14Jx3

When remote employees starting paying for my gas and daycare bills, then I will start to care about their career progression.

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