Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Todays Employee Work Ethics

In post-pandemic times, many employers and companies are continuing to mandate a return to the office for their workers and some employees are responding with a particular form of pushback. First, there was the trend "quiet quitting," in which workers did the bare minimum on the job just to get by and now, say workplace leaders and experts, there’s "coffee badging," another form of employee protest. As some employees are being called back to the office, many are subtly protesting by returning to the office for as little time as possible. Coffee badging is when employees show up to the office for enough time to have a cup of coffee show their face and get a ‘badge swipe' — then go home to watch TV, play on their personal IPads on the internet where they can not be monitored by the company, it’s about anything other than doing their work for the company which they are being paid. In the 2023 State of Hybrid Work report found that only about 1 in 5 workers (22%) want to be in the office full time, with 37% wanting hybrid work options and 41% preferring to be fully remote. Owl Labs study found that more than half (58%) of hybrid workers are "coffee badging," while another 8% said they haven't done it yet but would like to try it. How are workers getting away with ‘coffee badging’?
People at all levels of companies and organizations are busy with their own jobs, so they don’t have time to keep tabs on everyone else’s whereabouts. Data shows that about two-thirds of managers (64%) have ‘coffee badged’ themselves, with another 6% who want to try it. Coffee badging is simply the latest example of the challenges businesses are facing with transitioning employees back to the office after the pandemic. The best solution is to just require everyone to spend 40 hours a week everyday in the office.

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Post ID: @OP+1q9sjOHx

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As long as they pay me overtime , i can live with the RTO policy , but the fact is i have to drive 3 hours per day and work in the early mornings and late evenings without any overtime fee, it is totally ridiculous,given i am working with colleagues from diffrent countries (Mexico/Europe/China/india), truly frustared and sad

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Post ID: @5vfr+1q9sjOHx

If they seriously thought remote work was unproductive then they would disable Teams.
Simple once and done. They cant because honeywell's entire business model is built on remote work.

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Post ID: @3tqn+1q9sjOHx

Who can get anything done in a huge room, no walls and people pacing as far as their headset will allow, yelling at vendors for not delivering (even though they know Honeywell doesn’t pay), and zero respect for others need to focus? What I’ve seen is people show up for the minimum required time while talking about their dog to neighbors and then going home to actually work. The Honeywell office model has effectively reduced employee on task time to 2 days per week.

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Post ID: @2fhm+1q9sjOHx

This thread is boring and says nothing, the topic is purely contextual.

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Post ID: @2vas+1q9sjOHx

This is ridiculous.

CLEARLY: working from home will never be as productive as going to work. There is less peer pressure and manager pressure to accomplish tasks in a distributed environment. Anyone saying different is lying to themselves and others.

BUT: supply and demand still rules the day. Many people just love working from home, and with the ever-expanding global work model, companies will have to compete for capable employees, many of which will choose flexible employers.

SO: even with all the lazy arses complaining about the truth, companies will be forced into flexibility, so you can relax about it.

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Post ID: @2iae+1q9sjOHx

Looks like everyone missed the point on the post about shared work spaces. They are not saying they’re a good thing. They are saying that they increase security risks in addition to all of the other bad qualities they present.

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Post ID: @2qro+1q9sjOHx

Since many sites switched to shared workspace and reduced seats it is impossible to go back to full presence. And to be honest when I am required to spend 3 days in shared office with all those filthy tables, randomly damaged docking stations, ineffective place booking and all those strange people from random teams sitting around and talking all the time, my effectivity is severely impacted even tho I'm trying to work as normal as possible. But at homeoffice I can sit in quiet room with nice cup of tea in my comfy home clothes and usually I manage to do much more than in office.

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Post ID: @1lji+1q9sjOHx

Op -- please web search "plagarism"
If you are going to post this then use quotes and credit the source.
Do not edit to favor your position.

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Post ID: @1nne+1q9sjOHx

@1uil+1q9sjOH — agree
Workplace behaviors are the direct result of honeywell leadership inability/insincerity around goals to co-locate work teams. The majority of projects I have worked for last 15 yrs require 3 continents and at least five sites to finish. No site has more than a few workers. Result is predictable. Off hour meetings and zero connection to work at my site. I have no idea who sits next to me as I have never worked a project with them. They stopped buying name placards for cubes so ???

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Post ID: @1nug+1q9sjOHx

All relationships have value balancing. When one side feels undervalued they contribute less. Basic economics. Forcing anything will only cause breakup,employee churn, sabotoge, and that wont remove the imbalance because this is a culture shift.
Business spent 25yrs working to send knowledge work to lowest cost labor... this is what thst looks like.
Only real answer is to double down on strategy of work defined by work product not time. Alternately you could fix the percieved imbalance and reduce or compensate for commute time..somehow. this might mean smaller offices widely distributed to drop commutes to near zero for the entire workforce.

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Post ID: @1uil+1q9sjOHx

I amongst others worked harder from home than the office where there were numerous distractions. If this is how HW exec regard employees then the lack of trust and naive mindset says it all. I would strongly encourage all future shapers to shape their own future for the better and look elsewhere in the New Year. I for one left last year.

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Post ID: @mdl+1q9sjOHx

F---------cccckkkkkkkk you!!!!! The time I spend late at night, very early mornings on ridiculous global meeting across US, Europe, India, China, Mexico dealing with the biggest bunch of clowns in corporate history. F*ckkkkk that, soooo insulting! I am so done with this pathetic company.

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Post ID: @ovp+1q9sjOHx

@gtu+1q9sjOHx
You can bet they'll want you to do that in the main conference room. With a camera of course.

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Post ID: @tes+1q9sjOHx

Coffee breaking? Not by a long shot for me. Do I come in for the full 8 hours? No, but I work remotely a few hours when needed like early morning and late meetings with my GLOBAL teams. If they mandate a full 8 hours in the office, then they can shove my resignation up their arses.

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Post ID: @gtu+1q9sjOHx

Could this be the voice of Honeywell HR, planning to bring you back into the office 5 days a week from 8-5 next year? I suspect so. The 3-2 arrangement may be coming to an end.

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Post ID: @wfz+1q9sjOHx

Anyone who is worried about when, where and how a top-performing employee works is a complete Ioser. And what does it say about a supposed software company if they don’t have the requisite tech in-house to enable strong performance remotely?

If there’s an underperforming employee, then fire them and replace them with a strong performer. I used to tell my team that as long as they are getting strong, agreed upon results, I don’t care if they did it in a minute (and could take the rest of the day off) or the entire week (or whatever reasonable time frame) - the results are all that matter.

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Post ID: @ofr+1q9sjOHx

What a load! My god. NO it’s not about “doing as little work as possible” I was WAY more productive when I was fully remote. It’s about not wanting to sit in traffic for hours only to sit in a cube farm, or worse, open office where you hot desk just to attend a team meeting with your colleagues in another state/country. It’s also about health, not wanting to catch the latest office bug, along with consideration for our environment, not wanting to contribute to pollution which by the way, will eventually make the planet uninhabitable if we keep on this trajectory. Get with the times CEOs and politicians. We have the tech to do so much better. It’s no longer the 1900’s. Jeeze.

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Post ID: @arc+1q9sjOHx

What a load of tosh. I used to like coming into work 10 years ago when I was treated with respect and was well supported to do a meaningful job occasionally getting a few perks. Now you are treated like cattle and have to bring your own stationary and work on chaotic, disorganised projects lead by a bunch of mo--ns. Feck that.

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Post ID: @sfz+1q9sjOHx

Shut up! Greedy upper management takes all the revenue, and taxpayers pay corporations who claim tax credits for workers, and pay zero taxes. When I go into work, I do less work, because everyone is gossiping in each other’s cubicle. The greedy Wall Street investors and real estate investors want employees back into the office to occupy the building so they can keep their paying tenants, otherwise it will be a commercial real estate recession with half empty buildings. Berate the employees that do all the main work to keep these organizations running and be mad because they may get a little extra benefit while the CEO’s and investors take all the wealth! Go to … ✌️

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Post ID: @rhb+1q9sjOHx

https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/business/new-coffee-badging-job-trend-has-some-business-leaders-on-high-alert/

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Post ID: @rmq+1q9sjOHx
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