Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Cisco Impact

I figure I would bring up a topic that is never really talked about and with all of these layoffs rumored, I feel it is a good time.

Why on earth does Chuck and this ELT continue to host something like impact when it is hundreds of millions of dollars and that money could be used for better resources? There is no reason sales should be sent out to Vegas every year just to go eat fancy dinners, attend a couple speaker sessions, and then party their butts off. Yes, I understand partners and some high profile customers go too, but this money could be used to retain people or actually invest in making Cisco a good company again. I’m curious to hear peoples thoughts on this.

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Sales team should always be positive. If they feel negative it shows when they speak to the customers . That could be the reason why sales kick off is held in almost every company

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Post ID: @2bpk+1qJiEGCo

umm.... customers dont go to Impact. so that set of comments here can be disgarded.

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Post ID: @2bxs+1qJiEGCo

MGM is a cheap customer does not want to pay, everything for MGM is free. Waste time have MGM as a customer.

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Post ID: @1vtf+1qJiEGCo

MGM is a huge customer, I’ll leave it at that.

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Post ID: @1seg+1qJiEGCo

Have you ever worked at a company that didn’t have an annual sales kickoff?

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Post ID: @1wli+1qJiEGCo
  1. 1% of revenue. You have Technical Leaders and Principal Engineers who have each wasted more than that in single failed decisions. It's infinitesimal compared to what Cisco spends on customer found defects, not to mention the years of project overruns trying to fix bugs before they reach the customer and the year or more customers will spend testing a formally released image before even attempting to field it.

It's no surprise Cisco "engineers" write all sorts of cr-p code to "optimize" away a handful of instructions before a one second delay in code executed one time during boot rather than finding an actual hotspot that affects the whole system.

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Post ID: @1bvu+1qJiEGCo

"The returns back to the company are massive and it keeps you employed and provides your family healthcare coverage, 401k, etc, etc."

So says the sales person who takes advantage of those perks.

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Post ID: @1vsf+1qJiEGCo

It’s so weird needing to even have impact at all. If our products were actually good they wouldn’t need the annual sales hype party.

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Post ID: @doh+1qJiEGCo

Let’s go with the lower estimate of 50-60 million for impact. What bookings come out of it? Based on the rumored numbers for Q2, I’d argue that the money could be utilized elsewhere.

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Post ID: @qcl+1qJiEGCo

The returns back to the company are massive and it keeps you employed and provides your family healthcare coverage, 401k, etc, etc.

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Post ID: @eui+1qJiEGCo

Impact is a massive waste of time and money - but a perfect opportunity for non value add emplyees to kiss _ss with senior non value add directors and extend their every second friday deposites.

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Post ID: @mbl+1qJiEGCo

Maybe you should get a life instead of worrying about how Cisco spends its money

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Post ID: @cxx+1qJiEGCo

@tmg+1qJiEGCo Ok, I’m sure customers and sales people love it. But can Cisco actually quantify an ROI?

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Post ID: @ohs+1qJiEGCo

@kkb+1qJiEGCo that is not true. My old sales director told me that the entire event including airfare, hotels, food/drinks, speakers, renting venues, etc. is way north of $150M.

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Post ID: @dah+1qJiEGCo

It's a good question, however, IMPACT costs $50-60M, not 100's of millions. Divide the fully loaded cost of most employees and you are talking about 100 to 150 people saved by not having that event. Personally, I get more done in those few days connecting with people face-to-face than I can get done in two months. I hate the annual and becoming bi-annual layoffs as much as anyone, unfortunately, this is not the job saver you would think it is. 150 ppl is better than none the layoffs of 5 - 20% are thousands of people. What would fix this is if the company would start to innovate AND recognize that most of the core products are commoditized so we cannot keep expecting 75% margins.

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Post ID: @kkb+1qJiEGCo

Like it or hate it, those kinds of things drive revenue. It isn't my favorite part of the business world, but customers LOVE to be schmoozed.

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