Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Performance group CLs

So I hear there continues to be more and more assessment groups that have widened the CL range, for example CL20-29 in the same assessment group.
How do you compare a new hire ~CL23 or even 5-8 yr person CL 24/25 to a 50 year old CL29?

This is the new tactic to disadvantage late career employees (even starting 45+ years old). Objective to help PIP/reduce people who would have received a pension in the future. Or smaller, yet meaningful impacts like help justify little to no raises for those people (oh well your assessment category has gone down. So sorry)

This will be the subject of future lawsuits.

Has anyone heard HR’s or VP’s justification for these type of groupings?

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Post ID: @OP+1qOznyBX

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OP, after Darren's layoffs there aren't enough people left in the CL bands to have a distribution so they had to widen the CL bands. That simple. There are extremely few people left, mostly the HiPos. If HR didn't make the CL bands wider many HiPos would've been NSIed. That simple.

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Post ID: @3dxe+1qOznyBX

We are moving responsibilities that were normally assigned to CL-28/29 to CL-26/27 thus lowering average salaries pushing responsibilities down.

CL-28/29 will be reserved for V.P.'s. It will be rare to see anyone make it to CL-30+ executive ranks going forward.

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Post ID: @2vkb+1qOznyBX

Even Directors are moving to other companies before they are NSI'd at 08801.

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Post ID: @2wvb+1qOznyBX

I had someone in my team who was classified as outstanding for 2 or 3 years in a row. Relatively low CL. A popular fellow.
In one of the years he didn’t deliver much. At his assessment I put him somewhere in the middle. HR kept asking me why I did that, even though I had evidence to show from feedback and the supervisor he worked for that, that year, he didn’t do much in the role. It’s all rigged.
I don’t know how he was getting outstanding year after year previously

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Post ID: @2buw+1qOznyBX

GLOBAL PROJECTS LNG RANK GRPUP IS CL 23 to cl 29 IN A SINGLE RANK GROUP

BEWARE

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Post ID: @2pdu+1qOznyBX

Seems pretty simple to me. Our opportunities and pay for people in their 40’s are not competitive so they are using every ranking manipulation possible to prop people up those that they want to retain. All at the cost of opportunities and pay for older workers. Simple.

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Post ID: @1rpk+1qOznyBX

Ugly this year 2024 on 22 East have a plan , good luck 🍀

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Post ID: @1eal+1qOznyBX

Is this really happening this year????????????

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Post ID: @1lnt+1qOznyBX

Home of the double cross XX

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Post ID: @1iko+1qOznyBX

@con
Yes. Technically it is possible to check. However it is not a requirement to distribute nor stewarded. And the times when it is checked at the end of a 10 hour meeting no one has energy to reopen the discussions. While in the middle of the meeting a frequent comment is that more is expected from the higher CL so we should put the lower CL higher. Very subjective and people are not really able to make a relative comparison.

Bottom line it is a flawed approach.

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@con+1qOznyBX

HR may claim they are unbiased - but ive seen first hand rank slots flip for no reason. Others have documented it here in past posts too. Its common.

Look at who gets important roles or promotions - it's heavily, obviously biased against the overall demographic.

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Post ID: @1azr+1qOznyBX

HR does a statistical test to make make there is no bias by Age, CL, gender, race etc. Basically 29 CL must be distributed across all 5 quintiles...or it shows bias.

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Post ID: @con+1qOznyBX

You have hit the nail on the head - you cant meaningfully compare a CL23 to a CL29. If you did - most of the 29s would be at the top and the 23s at the bottom just due to experience level.

However since we don't really use merit as a ranking tool anymore - HR can take advantage of the chaos and use it as a selective retention tool. All the lower CLs (which tend to be younger people) get to be ranked high at the expense of older folks who get ranked low and/or pipped.

In the short term it helps retain young employees. However it sends a clear message - as you get older you will be devalued and mistreated just like the late 40s and 50 somethings are now.

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Post ID: @rev+1qOznyBX

For all those who want to go to LCS it was 23/29 global pool. So chaos. Half those who enter will drop like a rock.

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Post ID: @etd+1qOznyBX

And make sure you ask/press since HR/ VP/managers (participating in the group session) try to avoid telling their employees when this is the composition. At least what I experienced last year.

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