Thread regarding Ford layoffs

“Rental car giant Hertz on Thursday said it will sell about 20,000 electric vehicles from its U.S. fleet.”

Today’s headline. People don’t even want to rent EVs.

What happened to this headline news?
“Ford says it now has nearly 200,000 reservations for F-150 Lightning, or 3 years of backlog
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Fred Lambert
| Dec 7 2021 - 6:56 am PT”

2022 Total EV sales (not just Lightning) 61,575 units
2023 Total EV sales 72,608 units

Total EV sales 134,183.
No 3 years of backlog.
Why does anyone believe anything Farley says?

Nope. I am talking about sales globally, comparison between Ford and Tesla.

If I compare Ford with other EV companies around the world, Ford is not on the list of top 25 EV companies.

If the US allowed the Chinese EV companies to sell in the US, Ford will be out of business for sure.

You are talking US only, look bigger picture.

China-based automaker BYD overtook Tesla as the world’s biggest electric vehicle seller in the fourth quarter of 2023.

Tesla remained in the top spot of EV sales for the full-year, however, selling a record-setting 1.8 million EVs in 2023.

Meanwhile, BYD sold less than 1.6 million EVs last year. In total, the automaker sold over 3 million vehicles in 2023, including 1.4 million plug-in hybrid models.

BYD will outsell Tesla really soon. You can't get cheaper than stolen designs and slave-like wages.

@raa+1quUnNfV - ahem...er...Town Hall Guy,

Tesla was founded in 2003. They started making EVs in 2008. During 2003-8 there was slow deliberate tech development by people who knew what they were doing. Along comes Musk with money and whatever else he does to make businesses run. 2014 - They open source thier patents...in a blog post titled All Our Patent Are Belong to You" essentially handing other oems the tech and daring them to innovate and fight for the talent. The reaction? More record executive pay packages while the organizations as a whole sh-t on themselves with decrepit corporate structure and mentally geriatric management. Next - Tesla again, dares the OEMs to innovate this time in a space where it has a long head start but not as big of one : 48v architecture. A letter is sent on how to design one to other CEOs...once again daring them to innovate and telegraphing where Tesla is going.

Are you getting the idea yet?

For you to come in and say that Model e is going to make a 2nd Gen BEV that's gonna not only sell more than what amounts to a handful of units a quarter, stop losing 30k+ a vehicle but also pull ahead of Tesla is the kind of arrogance gives false hopes, is toxic, and honestly childish. Ford needs a turnaround...and economy and US workers desperately need them to do it. The technology is clearly there for the taking and has been - frankly in thier collective faces. Simply having DF on the team without needed structural changes will spin the wheels as it were. There needs to be more new blood in the C suite. Otherwise DF will drown in the decrepit trap that anyone else whose tried to innovate had been subjected to. DF alone isn't and never has been the answer.

Although I should down vote this post, you may just be uninformed. The fact of the matter is, Ford is #2 in EV sales. Only Telsa is above us, but don't forget the big head-start they had in the EV space. We could have been to their level had we had Doug Field and Model e up and running at Ford at the same start point as Tesla.

This means we need to work harder, and we are up to the task. As mentioned in recent Town Hall's, we will have the gen-2 Model e BEV's launching soon and those products will leap frog us past Tesla's outdated product offerings. I believe JF's accurate prediction of Ford BEV sales by 2026.

This explains why Model e employees have time to change IP addresses 75 times in order to downvote comments they don’t like 75 times.

Perhaps Model e should get busy selling subscriptions to offset the $40k we lose on every vehicle they produce.

Okay, here they go, downvoting 🤣🤣🤣