How about you? Might even be a better deal than leaving voluntary. If RIF'd you have a shot at unemployment as the sweetener.
20 replies (most recent on top)
If you are RIF’d it does not necessarily negate in the UI (Unemployment Ibsurance) in the interim. In my state, as long as the Lumen UI vendor marks the severance payment as “allocated to the last day of work” you will still get UI and there will be no delay or deduction or offset. Speaking from experience here :) Also worked with the bonus. Has to be marked as allocated that way though.
“ Hard working. My a...ss. I am a technician and we are doing futures and trying to stay relevant. This company is not allowing overtime, weekend duty or pager pay anymore. Just 40 or 45 if lucky. Also, you can slightly consider yourself to be hard working if you are doing copper but let's be real, that's only Tip and Ring. Two copper wires with plant that is never being replaced. Cut to another pair and another pair. The snips or punch down barely weigh a pound”
Sure, if you’re a piece of sh-t technician. The real cable maintenance techs are still building cases, going into Manholes dealing with 2700+ count paper, drawing up prints because the engineers who knew how to downsize cable are gone. We are still rebuilding cross boxes, splicing fiber, cutting in doublers, running design circuit trouble, etc. not everyone is a cut to clear tech. We are backlogged 1,400 maintenance tickets here and dont have enough techs to handle it.
"Hard working. My a...ss. I am a technician and we are doing futures and trying to stay relevant"
Speak for yourself dude, you have no clue how other areas/states/job titles are working. Get out of your bubble, maybe your area is not busy, doesn't mean it's like that across the company.
Everyone on here that still works for this company is trying to do their best and continue working. Whether you’re a tech, sales, customer support, eng. etc. we all need a job and every dept needs eachother. If you don’t work here but still come on this site to “hope” everyone else loses their jobs or quits just to satisfy your own self interest and make yourself feel better. Fu-k you! I feel bad for anyone involuntarily let go. I get the bitterness and resentment. But to hope other people lose their jobs? That’s disgusting. To hope a company fails so you can say I told you so? That’s great if you left to find a better position somewhere else. Why come back here with an attitude towards current employees. This is a site to discuss layoffs. I come here to seek rumors with maybe a bit of truth. . I hope I see a buyout rumor soon. Maybe I can leave and save some kids job. But what I won’t do is come back and deride anyone who’s still working and doing their best to live a decent life. Again, fu-k you if that’s all you’ve got to offer on this forum.
Hard working. My a...ss. I am a technician and we are doing futures and trying to stay relevant. This company is not allowing overtime, weekend duty or pager pay anymore. Just 40 or 45 if lucky. Also, you can slightly consider yourself to be hard working if you are doing copper but let's be real, that's only Tip and Ring. Two copper wires with plant that is never being replaced. Cut to another pair and another pair. The snips or punch down barely weigh a pound. If you're doing fiber placement, (which most in my state is done by contractors), then you are fusing or connecting copper on the MST. Easy bake oven. Now let's talk about my uncle who does work in a coal line in North Dakota. Or my cousins (plural) who just joined the police force. And we can go on with other intense Hard Working jobs. We are at the top of the pay scale and fighting for work in a dying company..time to get off your medication and return back to reality. Hard work is nothing comparable to what we do.
Rich Vos will be playing at Laugh it up! in Poughkeepsie, NY April 27. Tickets on sale now! also, FEED NANA!
Thank God my children listened to me …. Be the man don’t work for the man. When you do that you are not held hostage anymore by corporate america !!!! Amen.
I guess I’ll be back to work next week. I was hoping to go to the unemployment office first thing Monday.
Anybody have the number of employees exiting the business today?
In some states. A payment made by an employer to an individual is not a "severance allowance" if the purpose of the payment is to induce the individual to waive rights or claims against the employer.
It’s not the voluntary or involuntary part of the RIF that pertains to whether you can collect unemployment or not, it’s the fact that if you take a severance or not. Some states don’t allow you to collect unemployment for the duration of your severance for instance if you’re severance is paying you 5 months worth of your salary you’re ineligible to take unemployment for those 5 months.
JKL said "It would be better concerned for playing a lottery or something or looking to move your savings into the dipping stock markets"
RST replied "Lol. Dippping stock markets. The S&P is up over 8% ytd and 25% for the full 12 months."
Hello McFly, when the markets dip you put your money in. S&P just took a nice dip. Try and pay attention.
GerryJoePat asked "If you expressed interest, were accepted and "voluntarily leave" you will not have a shot at unemployment."
Contact your State unemployment office and ask. If you are an employee and don't know how to get the answer then Lumen does not want your lack of talent.
Is below correct?
If you expressed interest, were accepted and "voluntarily leave" you will not have a shot at unemployment.
If your are "involuntarily" pushed out by reduction in force forced upon you, you will have a shot at unemployment.
false info alert
volunteering for the eoi and being accepted for an enhanced pkg does NOT eliminate your unemployment claim eligibility whatsoever
state laws determine if a delay in unemployment happens or not, but lumen will not protest the claim, so they get approved with proper documentation (w2s and stubs)
this misinfo makes it appear there is a benefit to involuntary rif over to eoi rif ... there isn't
most rif policy benefits are the same, but nothing is enhanced (no 125 pct, less subsidized cobra) ... same ue eligibility unless fired for performance reasons
Best time in my whole life, sitting on the front step with milk and chocolate chip cookies my mother made. A real life, not like this cheap outfit that does not even know how to treat people. I hope it torments them until they make it right.
"It would be better concerned for playing a lottery or something or looking to move your savings into the dipping stock markets"
Lol. Dippping stock markets. The S&P is up over 8% ytd and 25% for the full 12 months.
Me like cookies!!!
“ if you’re RIF’d they’re still going to give you severance which negates unemployment at least in the interim”
That varies per state. Since the RIF is severance received in exchange for signing an agreement (waiver of claims against the company, non-compete, etc) most states do not count it as salary income and you can collect unemployment. Whether you volunteered for the RIF is irrelevant, your position was eliminated. If you resign that generally makes you ineligible for unemployment. Again, your state may vary.
And nice cookie recipe!
if you’re RIF’d they’re still going to give you severance which negates unemployment at least in the interim