Thread regarding Nike Inc. layoffs

No contractors were affected, isn't that against rule

Can someone please confirm, they layoff most of the full time but not contractors, not sure but as per department of labour this is not ethical/legal, can someone confirm it?

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Post ID: @OP+1ratdtFW

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It is unethical to layoff FTE’s while keeping ETW’s, but it is also unethical to keep ETW’s for more than a year without converting them to an FTE. It is also unethical for the firms the ETW’s work for to keep most of what Nike is paying them. Lastly it is unethical for management to only hire ETW’s from certain companies in certain places - ones that are notorious for treating their workers poorly, not paying them on time, etc. An ETW that is treated well is better for Nike. That works for all employees though - treat them well, get workers who care and deliver better results, treat them poorly and watch the results erode, the quality go down, the morale being in the sh----r, etc. That’s the cycle we’ve been in for years. Fixing it takes a lot more than layoffs. For any problem the first step is recognizing it, the second is being honest, the third is digging into why, the fourth is making a plan to fix it, and the fifth is doing it, step by painful step. If only addressing surface and short term issues, the cycle will just continue.

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Post ID: @pxk+1ratdtFW

“No contractors were affected” is a hilarious thing to say. It’s funny how people look around at their little area of Nike and then assume they know what’s going on everywhere. Go ask someone who works in Mia Hamm if contractors were affected. That building has been like a ghost town since November.

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Post ID: @rhr+1ratdtFW

This shows how invisible ETWs are to most (or at least, the vocal) FTEs. We’ve been getting cut in huge numbers since November, but because we’re “just ETWs” nobody bats an eye.

I’ve never worked at a place that prides itself on DEI and an amazing working environment that simultaneously codifies two classes of employees with vastly different working experiences. We’re not “just lucky to be here,” we’re underpaid, overworked, given zero communication about anything, and the perpetual scapegoat. I didn’t ask for this. I wanted to work at Nike, this is the only opportunity I have. Were told we’ll get converted if we work hard, but my experience has been that my FTE counterparts literally bury me rather than let me present my own work to our stakeholders.

Maybe you should be let go, since you represent this toxic “anyone but me or my friends” mentality that got us here in the first place. ETWs like me are just waiting until the budgets are set, because most of us won’t have our contracts renewed then. We also won’t get severance or any kind of support, so maybe think twice before calling for their heads.

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Post ID: @xmm+1ratdtFW

I don’t understand what people don’t understand about how you can’t lay off an employee that doesn’t work for you— you can choose to not renew their contracts and in many cases you can end them early, which is what’s happening. It doesn’t happen dramatically and it isn’t going to happen on the same day they’re tied up exiting FTE’s. They already made huge cuts to contracts and will be ending many more.

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Post ID: @hry+1ratdtFW

Y’all want to lay off contractors so bad lol. Go ask an ETW about their 2080/4160 policy. Contractors get let go every day dude.

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Post ID: @vqu+1ratdtFW

Contractors are in a different budget so not viewed the same by the market

And there are no laws about exiting contractors before employees.

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Post ID: @fql+1ratdtFW

correction.. they were affected too. Since we don't have to register their HC for layoffs, we ended most contracts with ETWs over summer. Had to fight to keep the critical etws

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Post ID: @vvf+1ratdtFW

ETWs were not affected. They are a contractor, not an employee. Great thing about ETWs is they don't have to log the lay offs or pay unemployment tax and such on contract workers. Now they have extended contracts to 2 years.

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Post ID: @civ+1ratdtFW

Yeah.… because contractors are not directly on the payrolls… they’re called contingent workers for a reason!

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Post ID: @fdl+1ratdtFW

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