Question for those who had insight on the demographics of this week's RIF:
- How was the RIF list decided?
- Was there any warnings?
- Were the folks let go on awaiting assignments?
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It is a shame. I worked there for 35 years. Loved my job and all of the people. Worked on my own time always available after hours and on weekends and answered phone calls and texts to help. Never was talked to about my performance and was the only admin that came back into the office when was told after Covid within my organization and I got laid off and was told to read the paperwork on that day and would not answer any questions. I will never forget that they turned my life upside down in my late fifties. I was shocked and surprised and was treated like a common criminal that day. Apparently, someone did not like me for whatever reason in management/HR, but the rest of my team and the entire building that I supported all loved me and had wonderful things to say about my work, professionalism and performance. They can go sc--w, they wound up doing me favor, although I miss everyone that I worked with daily. Nothing like living for your job all these years and then on your last day to be treated like a piece of sh-t and thrown out the door like a useless nothing.
If something in management doesn't like your face, you're gone. It is the era of the bootlicker and the brown-noser now, the unflushable failures.
Many times it was senior management getting rid of people they don't like. Those probably happened last year. They are usually the first to go. Along with the high-paid, long-term employees. Those celebrating getting rid of gray beards should know the collapse of the company and current layoff was probably due to the company getting rid of the knowledge base that could have kept the company afloat; program managers who know how to keep a program in the black, engineers who can foresee failures, all the “been there, done that, got the t-shirt” people. Good luck.
If that a fact or the story people were told to tell? LoL
"What people were told the people that were let go where from two groups.
problem people or low performers
people that didn't have a clearly defined role"
What people were told the people that were let go where from two groups.
- problem people or low performers
- people that didn't have a clearly defined role
Maybe now with many NOS’s gone they’ll clean out the pizza crump eating roaches in the NOC and sanitize the Covid infested bathrooms.
I had a friend let go in Melbourne and he was a high earner with great marks. So it is more like where ever the dart lands gets shown the door.
the Union workers were laid off by seniority. mostly people here less than 4 years. others were employees of companies acquired by l3. they were not dinosaurs like this repeating a--hole keeps posting.
The comment about 40+ VPs in HR is so false.
Seems as most had HR red flags for one reason or another. Some sites may differ. Everyone can agree we were getting fat. Too bad they didn't get rid of about 50 VP's. I looked about a year ago and there were 40 or 50 VP's in HR alone. I know it's just a ego title, but damn!
No warning, indirect procurement was given a warning they had plenty of time to find internal jobs and or outside jobs, why not allow some of the other indirect workers the same respect?
Does loyalty mean nothing to those making the millions off those that give up their personal time to work? Those that work overtime even when they are salaried? Why give promotions and raises to those you know you are going to get rid of?
Keep hiring the those with only book knowledge and let’s see how far you get.
Putting hard workers out on the street is easy for those who make millions, they don’t care about the people they only care about the money and their fancy houses and cars, while those struggling to now find work may have to live in their beat up cars. I hope it was all worth it to ruin the lives of those that gave you decades of their life!
Those dinosaurs everyone refers to in their posts took very crucial knowledge with them, be careful who you call a dinosaur you may just need them one day at your next job, you won’t last long without the expertise many left with.
Not enough new contracts coming in and constant delays for the ones already awarded.
Anyone with a closing project but no new assignment by next week were gone. Anyone on indirect labor were scrapped.
It's a shame, since those delayed projects are going to cost the company even more when they're short staffed and desperately filling holes with contractors.
I know there was a dial-in meeting with EMs, GLs, and Ed Zoiss. Zoiss was rather pointedly deferring questions about criteria to a team of people who apparently made the list. GLs and EMs had minimal input into the decisions.
I heard that there were outside "experts" in the HTC the past few weeks (think the "Bobs" from Office Space) interviewing people and observing. This whole thing seems like it was pushed from on high.
Somebody on here posted that they had just received a promotion but were laid off anyway.
Older people who thought their previous contributions and efforts outweighed their irrelevant position in the current technology industry. The dinosaurs were walked to the pasture to die.
Seems like it's a mix of redundancies, poor performers, folks near retirement (...ouch), high earners for their function/level, and indirect hourlies with low utilization. May be more next week....... hard to tell right now. People have been saying different sites have had different demographics so there might not even be a consensus answer.