I thought I’d ask because I’m personally convinced that the main problem most of you have with outsourcing to India is the fact that the median Indian is some shade of brown. Considering that most of you seem to reside in Texas I just put 2 & 2 together.
Wonder what you’re all going to do when they start outsourcing to Africa, which has already started happening in some companies. Gonna build another stupid wall along the Atlantic coast too? LOL good luck doing so without immigrant labor.
A post from some “sys_temic rac_ist” je-rk. I want to see how you feel when your job goes to some low cost country. I’m sure that you and family will not care for the loss of income and instead will celebrate if it goes to a “politi-cally correct” country.
I work with several Indian Americans that are completely competent and compensated on USA pay scale.
I work with Indians, both onsite and via Zoom, that are paid 20% of US pay scale and actually produce near 20% of a US employee.
EM Executives blindly believe they are getting 100% productivity for that 20% salary because nobody is allowed to track the errors and rework.
Train wreck incoming but the train conductor (DW) has turned off the headlight as he travels through the tunnel so he cannot see the wreck coming.
What an ignorant post. If you have been to a plant in Texas, you would see they are very diverse. In our group, we have several Hispanics, African American, and yes Indian. The issue here is not skin color or country, its corporate greed. Employees join the company hopefully to have a career. Our cities, states, and country rely on good paying jobs to support business and pay taxes. When you move those jobs overseas, then you hurt the economies in the United States. I own ExxonMobil stock and I understand a company needs to make profit, but there is a balance of making profit and sc--wing US employees for corporate greed. From a work standpoint, I would think if you look at the numbers you would find out we are not saving that much money with respect to our total budget. I have seen some jobs that would take 3-4 months to complete in the US take a year sent over to India. Meetings where 5 or 6 Indian employees show up where it would be one person in the US.
Its not about skin color, its about shared values and culture. So no, i wouldnt care as much if jobs were sent to Switzerland.
Somebody below mentioned that the trend would end due to low quality and lack of innovation.
There will likely be an Exxon Valdez level event if there are too few people in Spring to catch all the errors produced by BTC.
We are forbidden to track the number of errors found from BTC, so EM Management not aware of the magnitude of risk depending on Indian designers.
Now we are being told BTC will oversee Indian Engineering contractors then BTC will supervise fabrication of Indian fabrication companies such that the first time an expert sees the equipment is when delivered to Baytown or Beaumont or Baton Rouge.
The above paragraph seems like a finding in a root cause investigation.
@3gvp+1sSN6YBu not sure of Poe's law, but more likely Pooh's (Winnie) law, which states it's all about the honey (money).
AKA profit maximization.....the color of money not the color of one's skin!
@szw+1sSN6YBu 💯 accurate!! Victim mentality to justify trying to replace American's. Not a color issue! Competency! Love our country and want to protect our country against theft of opportunities for our children. Sc--w India or any other Country taking away from our ability to take care of our legal citizens!! Just shut it !
This trend will reverse. The quality isn’t there. The cultural ability to innovate isn’t there.
@3iey Not sure how to take your comment. Is this some kind of reverse trolling? Seems like Poe’s Law may apply here.
@OP; so sorry to hear that you consider yourself a member of this newly oppressed minority group.
To make retribution for this perceived wrong, the EM employees in TX just implemented a new DEI (Di-k Every Indian) program, in order to enhance profitability.
Now get your goofy a$$ back to work before you fall "victim" to our newly enhanced DEI program!
Did no one do the inclusion training before the outsourcing. Just another smoke and mirrors by Darren to keep the regime off his back. It’s very evident this is a work place that there are so many disconnects no one knows what is going on in real time. Are there small pockets of some normal business behavior yes. But for much of this company the favoritism, ineptness, selfishness and just plain don’t care is too much. Thankfully the product we sell can be made and packaged easily with contractors to a continuous demand. If we were really about operations and true profit/savings we would all be going in the same direction with accountable internal services to get the job done.
Something hilarious is that jobs are outsourced to the gbc's and then the GBC outsources tasks back to service providers in the US. Looking at you tmo
@mpv You still don’t get it, do you?
They can produce garbage and the shareholders can still make record profits. This is how the corporate system works.
Also, you’re nothing special. If you sit in Spring, all you’re really doing is managing contractors, updating equipment purchase specs, blowing hot air at vendors in virtual meetings, and skimming technical reports. Definitely not worth the $280k/year Exxon pays you.
Plot twist: jobs are outsourced to Indian workers in Scandinavian countries with citizenship in those countries.
Would all of the closeted racists posting here still be praising the work of their Scandinavian colleagues if those colleagues were brown and had Hindu names? I think we all know the answer, but I’ll let the hypocrites speak for themselves.
Every worthwhile supervisor or senior engineer to their contact engineers five years ago: “Get out in the unit. Develop a relationship with your operators. You can’t troubleshoot from a desk. Put your eyes on the equipment.”
Management now: “JK lol. BTC and KLTC can totally do all the troubleshooting and project designs remotely! Say, have you added anything to this spreadsheet of KLTC Saves so we can talk about how much they’re kicking butt?”
Outsourcing to Africa lol. Have you actually seen the work product of the local employees in West Africa?
What the heck are you talking about? A ton of jobs have been outsourced to Argentina, Czech Republic, and Hungary (finance side). The high turnover rate results in often times a bad work product. Nothing to do with the color of their skin, but the quality can be lacking.
The issue is the competence of BTC personnel, nothing else.
If you haven’t worked with BTC you wouldn’t understand the issue
Only a racist sees racism where none exists.
No, because all the Scandinavians that I have ever worked with were highly talented professionals that produced top quality work and were not hired just because they were cheap.
First, no one ever relocates a business to Scandinavia so this is an unrealistic scenario set up by a troll.
Lots of people try to turn this into some sort of racist mantra.
But the issue in all these situations should be fair and free trade whether this is products or services. Countries like India, China, Mexico, … are not burdened with the regulations and requirements that most western counties bear including labor and environmental laws. I’ve heard ExxonMobil management brag about how we can terminate personnel in India without cause at any time of their employment so there is not risk in hiring someone. And when a refinery in China can put anything out the stack or flare they want without cost of pollution controls this gives them a competitive advantage.
But this also does not mean the more regulations and burden on business which directly impacts people’s lives is good either. Is it worth saving one tree or spotted owl if it puts 1million people in the unemployment line.
There needs to be a balance. But unfortunately this is where big government and big businesses are aligned against the interest of the average perso.
Nobody complains about cheap goods manufactured abroad from countries overseas but they enjoy buying them because they are cheap (and someone else was losing the job). They complain about the jobs getting shipped abroad because their own a$$ is getting fried - its all self preservation, you see.
Really! Yicks. The dark overlord lives in Mom’s basement.
Back off OP troll
The victim complex is so pathetic... no one is complaining about Indian Americans, or African Americans, etc. It's not about color, it's about replacing one American with three clueless employees/contractors elsewhere, and always getting terrible results. Also love the dig on Texas, especially with Houston being the most diverse city in the entire country.
Just uninspired and played-out rhetoric from pseudo-intellectual dullards.
Wait till they start complaining about AI taking over jobs. You think AI is going to care. Companies move work around wherever it's the cheapest cost for them. In five years, AI will have taken over lots of jobs. Then no one is going to complain about Indians, Chinese, Africans, or even the Scandinavians taking over their jobs. Crime is going to sky rocket, just as inflation will. Humans creating AI to destroy humanity. Wow! We should be given a hero's badge. Make sure we teach AI what a hero's badge is so they can teach their AI kid robots.
Another words, You need to worry about AI. That is the real threat for your job and perhaps your kids jobs if AI hasn't taken over most jobs.