Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

“……United we stand, divided we fall..”

How many different contracts and dates do we have?

I’d just like a small piece of a Stankey raise and bonus.

You think CWA wants to give out the strike money? CWA is worse than the Government.

Don’t worry they haven’t e magnets to work the strike.

the CWA has always sc--wed the young guy. it wasnt hard fought it was fanagling of the older officers to get their retirements set up and sacrificing the younger hands benefits. for example the pre 98 pension benefit, paying for health insurance, quadrupling of copays, not including some job titles in the no layoff secret MOA.

it would be nice to have back the pre 98 pension benefit so that we could reture at 62 with $400k in benefit but that was sacrificed away by the CWA.

Strike fund is nice but most of my co-workers have been saving up for a while. It isn’t like we don’t know every contract negotiations that there is a possibility for a strike. Nearly all benefits and work rules we have today are because of hard fought actions in the past including, strikes by former workers across all industries. There is a long enumerated list that the union won for all workers, management included. My father and his co-workers were on strike in the sixties and the eighties without any strike fund. Progress involves sacrificing at times so, United we stand, divided we fall.

honeypot would have never struck if it hadnt been for a wildcat walkout in one local in florida, which they got hammered by the NLRB. CWA doesnt have a strike fund large enough for a prolonged walk.

to be honest if what i here is true about certain job titles, there will be a few thousand less paying dues come august. honeypot already sc--wed those job titles in his secret MOA with the company. i say those job titles need to look real hard at other representation other than the CWA.

Another viable offset, move the entire boardroom and c-suite overseas. Think of how much expense would be saved, pennies on the dollar in compensation, not a lot of money spent running around to high dollar sporting events in private Jets and pilots, etc..

You are correct they are offsetting it with layoffs of staff and managers that are constantly in need of the next project to justify their job. T is finally getting around to cutting a lot of dead weight that has been reported in the news since, the 80’s. Flattening of the layered cake so, there will be less places for the sycophants to hide without producing something beside azz kissing, filtering the truth and always saying yes.

There are a lot of great office worker/mangers just, not the one who continues to use his small vocabulary and repeats the same thing over and over. I hope Stankey isn’t paying you, oh that’s right, I forgot, you are such a Stankified azz kisser, free is good enough and you expect everyone else to be like you. Sorry but labor will bargain for their fair share despite, your lame attempts.

“ So keep patting yourselves on the back for sticking it to the company with your cadillac provisions. The company will just keep offsetting those “gains” on the backend like they always have.”

Great post, too bad you lost the unions slugs after the first sentence.

$h1+ or get off the pot union

OP: A very biased “observation from afar”, LOL. You could have just led in with “union loving doosh” and it would have been more accurate and truthful.

You obviously don’t know much about union contract negotiations. AT&T will not let union bargaining gains eat into the bottom line. They’ll just cut more fat (including surplus of you union slugs), surplus more managers, ramp automation/AI and accelerate sunsetting of legacy technologies to maintain the balance. That last one has the added benefit of directly impacting union doofs who only work on legacy stuff like copper and can’t learn new skills. Makes surplus decisions very easy.

So keep patting yourselves on the back for sticking it to the company with your cadillac provisions. The company will just keep offsetting those “gains” on the backend like they always have.

"All of management has their’s but we are continuing to fall behind with inflation rising monthly. Let’s walk!"

No, management does not. I have seen my raises come nowhere near caring for inflation. On the flip side, customers are not buying as much in this economy, so workload seems lighter, but the numbers are not being made. There is upward pressure to sell more from the shareholders and downward pressure from the economy. Customers need it better/faster/cheaper, which means more write down. Great for our business (AT&T as a whole), not great if you are in sales and get paid on the revenue versus the ARPU.

"Could go on with all the maintenance and installation issues that doesn’t happen during a work stoppage and it adds up quickly, no way could management keep up and most don’t even have the experience or expertise to correct the issues or installations."

This is true. I went on duty during a strike a few years back. All we did is take the highest severity of calls and work them. You can't get good at fiber splicing or really any of the field work if you don't have a chance to practice it. My understanding is that field techs get 6 weeks of hands-on classroom training and another 6 months in job shadowing. I have a lot of respect for what Prem Techs do. I even found it somewhat fun, but could only imagine working out in the dead of winter or in a rainstorm.

You’re absolutely right and it’s not near as bad as it used to be with the service order workload being diminished and fiber carrying most of the load. It’s so much more reliable. I do think we would still win a strike they cannot replace our expertise. As said earlier Att revenue won’t change.

During a strike, nothing or very little gets installed, damages and outages happen everyday. Paper cable gets wet, air pressure issues. Equipment breaks in the central offices and the field at RT or inside business. Special circuits such as National, FAA, 911, 100G, ASE feeds to cell towers, trunks, military, agencies, business lines, main switch, etc.. have outages or issues. Time sensitive road moves and pole transfers need to be done. There are power issues with various equipment and generators need to be ran. Could go on with all the maintenance and installation issues that doesn’t happen during a work stoppage and it adds up quickly, no way could management keep up and most don’t even have the experience or expertise to correct the issues or installations.

The same play being re-enacted every contract negotiations is getting tiresome. Where are our raises and bonuses Mr. Stankey? All of management has their’s but we are continuing to fall behind with inflation rising monthly. Let’s walk!

I agree with you overall, but I will say that the biggest difference between AT&T employees and the UPS/Auto workers is that they are all needed whereas 50-75% of AT&Ts workers are not needed on any given day. Yes, critical failures happen, but there’s a lot more chair holding down going on at T day in day out than there are major failures.

I don’t think many people will be happy paying a bill if there service doesn’t work or they can’t get it installed or repaired quickly.

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“My point is you still have to pay your cell phone bill during a strike so our revenue doesn’t go away like the other industries.”

There is plenty of other things that can put the network into serious trouble.

During a strike, nothing or very little gets installed, damages and outages happen everyday. Paper cable gets wet, air pressure issues. Equipment breaks in the central offices and the field at RT or inside business. Special circuits such as National, FAA, 911, 100G, ASE feeds to cell towers, trunks, military, agencies, business lines, main switch, etc.. have outages or issues. Time sensitive road moves and pole transfers need to be done. There are power issues with various equipment and generators need to be ran. Could go on with all the maintenance and installation issues that doesn’t happen during a work stoppage and it adds up quickly, no way could management keep up and most don’t even have the experience or expertise to correct the issues or installations.

D4 Midwest had a ULP strike prior to D3. Lasted up to a week in some places.

During a teamsters strike they can deliver no packages. During a UAW strike no cars are built. During a telecom strike our sales are almost no different. The revenue is automatic. My point is you still have to pay your cell phone bill during a strike so our revenue doesn’t go away like the other industries. Not an argument against strike just pointing out a big difference in the business model.

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The bootlicking is going to start soon.

Inflation seemed to start during the pandemic and the new administration poured gasoline on it after 2021. All kind of executive orders and policy changes that has driven inflation so much higher and wages have fallen way behind, getting worse each day. I have to use my credit card each month for rent, food, fuel and utilities to make up the difference. I’m as frugal as possible, it’s just not working for me, need some side hustles or better wages. AT&T isn’t enough for us Gen Z’s. I know I’m voting for change come Nov. be lucky if I still have a job with all the layoffs. I don’t care how well the stock market it doing, it doesn’t effect my economy, don’t have enough money in there yet, it’s all the day to day expenses that are ki-ling me and my friends.

For reference: CEO avg. compensation vs. the avg workers, in 1965 was 15 to 1. Now, it is in the hundreds of times to 1 and that’s just one position, the c- suite isn’t far behind. Something’s got to give because inflation is out of control and the younger generations can’t even afford housing, food, vehicles, etc. even with professional career jobs. Time for a change.