Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Far from world class…

Where do I begin?

I came to Aramco expecting the experience of a lifetime, brimming with opportunities to learn and grow. How naive that was. In my brief tenure at HQ, I've discovered that "stupid" has a new definition.

Expats are lured with false promises and lies. You’re led to believe you’re bringing your expertise to a place desperately in need of intellect and common sense. Instead, you’re treated like a caged hamster. Surrounded by locals, either beneficiaries of company-funded US universities, where they graduate solely due to Aramco's hefty donations, or those who've never stepped outside of Dhahran, you quickly realize the bleak reality. These locals, with their elementary grasp of the real world, are promoted and praised by an equally inept middle management.

Expats in managerial roles? Rarely seen. Management positions are part of Aramco’s grand Saudization plan. Be prepared to report to a supervisor, manager, or director who couldn’t differentiate between “their, there, or they’re.” Management’s concern isn’t quality work; it's keeping their bosses’ thobes unruffled. Tell them the sky is blue, and they’ll insist it's green if that’s what they think their superiors want to hear. This results in poor work left, right, and center.

Several executives are undoubtedly smart but have no faith in their lower management. Consequently, they seek opinions from consultants who've realized Aramco is a money pit for basic advice. Every department contracts some consulting agency, likely raking in nearly $20 million a year for work a monkey could do with its eyes closed.

One SVP, recently appointed head of community services, epitomizes this rot. He expects everyone to kiss his feet and wipe his a-s after his daily dump in the main admin bathroom. His coterie of female assistants strokes his ego as if he’s never been pleasured before.

Life on camp? If you’re accustomed to anything decent, prepare to abandon it for the Aramco Dhahran ghetto. The camp resembles a 1950s Houston slum. Laborers beg for water and shade while mowing the lawns for the tenth time in a week. Good luck finding parking if you work at Midra or Main Admin. The workforce has ballooned with locals, but parking has dwindled, and building more is apparently too sensible a solution.

Housing on camp is akin to subsidized housing in the Bronx. Expect moldy, ro--h-infested walls. The provided furniture reeks of a morgue, and your appliances will likely break bi-weekly.

Then there’s the racism. Many Saudis at Aramco are blatantly racist, especially towards other Arabs, Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis, or anyone who hasn't married their cousin. You’ll frequently witness Saudis bossing around laborers, demanding menial tasks.

If you work in the core, prepare to waste your days on nonsensical PowerPoint presentations filled with big words that make no sense.

Overall, this place is a trash can of an experience. If you want your hopes and dreams crushed, join Aramco and work for someone who likely wouldn’t qualify to teach second-grade math in your home country.

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@mzzd+1tlHto6o

Exact same behaviours I’ve witnessed too. This is lawsuit territory in the western world.

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Post ID: @2Dpph+1tlHto6o

My all time favorite:

We had an issue that needed urgent attention. Supervisor made a decision on how to proceed. An expat offered an alternative that had merit. Supervisor screams “I don’t pay you to think!”.

How do you respond to that? We thought that was what expats were for.

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Post ID: @mzzd+1tlHto6o

Totally a sh-t hole

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Post ID: @dhnf+1tlHto6o

Sad but true. This post could not ring truer.

The sheer neptitude, backstabbing and racism while on the company pathway to being mislead and lied to is a fact to those that know.

What's keeping the company together now is very much like the critters that keeps the dilapidated walls of housing in place.

Only the best leave.

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Post ID: @cqms+1tlHto6o

Had a good laugh at the Loss Prevention reference below.

The “Chief” (who actually uses multiple titles very much like an African dictator) is a modern day Mr Burns from the Simpsons - laughable. Been there for decades, is despised by everyone yet refuses to move on. What a sad, sad little man.

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Post ID: @8nzv+1tlHto6o

I left in 2020 and I am appalled at what I am reading, but honestly no at all surprised, all companies who service Aramco pay to do so, its Arabic practice but no skills, poor quality and frankly dont give a f€&@, has led to this. Aramco can only be saved by the Americans, they built it and are the only ones who can fix and sell its products, if not, say bye bye within ten years, neom is the same, a clusterf€&@, pity, 12 years ago it was exciting and dynamic, but flawed, but today, its absolutely f€&@ed, and when it dies off, Saudies will starve. Pity really.

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Post ID: @3dqc+1tlHto6o

A good post, only correction is the $20m number on consultancy deals - it’s actually closer to $2bn.

I know of one department alone that spends over $100m annually on EY, KPMG and McKinsey to produce ppts. Quite obscene by any measure. Given there are north of 250 depts in aramco, you do the math.

MBS harks on about “leakage”, his first port of call should be to send the guys from Aramco management to the Ritz Carlton.

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Post ID: @3sls+1tlHto6o

I have been here almost two years and I can say that it has been the worst experience I have faced in my career. The kingdom is progressing but Aramcons are holding it back. The company’s mid level management does everything possible to hide the truth from the world and the government. They lie to hide the truth. But because they spent a week in a Harvard class they think they are qualified.

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Post ID: @2lcw+1tlHto6o

Expats who come to Aramco and try to stick it out become as disgruntled as the locals. Incompetence all around.

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Post ID: @2puw+1tlHto6o

No truer words.

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Post ID: @2jsa+1tlHto6o

The OP sounds like he could be working for Loss Prevention…an inept area of the business run by a dinosaur that is more interested in fancy titles, a personal parking space and minions bowing down to him than anything else. What a place!

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Post ID: @2cuw+1tlHto6o

Well written and rings true from my personal experience. The company is close to total breakdown, it will soon split up into smaller entities as each tribe head EVP takes its piece of silver.

Laziness, incompetence, backstabbing, cheating, lying and acting like a general sc-mbag is everywhere. It’s actually a way to get promoted, all the bad behaviours are actively encouraged. There’s so much fakery and noise it’s a wonder the company stays solvent.

Accept it’s a shithole and lower all expectations. Or just walk away, you cannot change a thing.

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Post ID: @1zvl+1tlHto6o

By the time I left, right before the pandemic, it was already getting bad. I came to realize (and this was unofficially confirmed by a friend in HR) that Aramco does not want long term Expat employees. The target tenure length I heard was two years. That's right, management doesn't expect or even want its Expats to stay longer than that. There are many companies in the West that have the same attitude. Amazon comes to mind. The difference is that Aramco requires you to move half way across the world for a projected two year gig.

With that in mind, you should adopt a similar time frame when deciding if you want to come to or stay with Aramco. If need a job and have no real prospects where you are located, then you might want to consider it. However, if you need to work for five more years before you can retire, then you would be crazy to leave another half way decent job to come to The Magic Kingdom. The only exception might be if you knew people who currently work in the department that wants to hire you. Some departments are better than others.

By the time I left, competence had sunk so low that I started to worry that something really big was going to go wrong either at the camp on one of the facilities. Thankfully, that hasn't happened, but I wouldn't rule it out. For the record, I hope everything continues to hold together for the Saudis and Aramco. There is already enough misery in the world without adding another disaster to the mix. Stay safe.

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Post ID: @1fez+1tlHto6o

Enter the HR And PA team

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Post ID: @yib+1tlHto6o

Granted that there are problems but with an attitude such as you have you should leave immediately.

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Post ID: @skl+1tlHto6o

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