Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Performance-based layoffs

I honestly wouldn't have any issues with layoffs if they were based on performance. Literally, none. Sadly, layoffs have not been performance-based for years. Instead, we keep losing the best performers over and over again. Cisco logic never ceases to amaze me.

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Using layoffs as an excuse to address performance problems is a pi-s-poor management tactic.

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Post ID: @mvv+1u6ZOrsq

This post is so true. Thank you. It is unfortunate when the CEO and his puppet Fran are extremely low performers and this impacts everything in the company including layoffs,

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Post ID: @sne+1u6ZOrsq

The problem with concept this is that, sort of by definition, a company that has failed to manage their business and thus has to lay off workers will also su-k at the process of identifying which workers they should lay off. Cisco is a classic example.

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It is not judging people "just" by their size, but, as we are taught in presentation skills, the delivery of the message is indeed important. In this case, it was a late, after dinner, performance discussion. Literally, we all watched our boss eat three days worth of food, then give a talk on "performance based on discipline to the work". I respect that yes many (including me) have disabilities, but in a position of leadership; a good portion is presence and professionalism. I can't take a message seriously when someone literally has BBQ stains on their shirt.

Folks that need to loose a few pounds (or more than a few pounds), really often have a tough time with the above. We often are the ones that work the hardest, and get the least amount of sleep. Being a people leader myself that has had weight issues several times, I can definitely say that people, especially younger people with older leaders; respect someone who has more obvious control over their culinary desires. I saw a video presentation of myself recently that was about a decade old, and it was tough to watch. I could not be taken seriously. Luckily, my boss (who was LR'd), was bigger than me. I have walked this road too, and yes the presentation makes a big difference in how seriously one is taken. Just the way it is.

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Post ID: @ote+1u6ZOrsq
Even w/o disabilities, as people get older they are unable to exercise as much and tend to gain weight.

That's an excuse, not a reason. If people, you know, walked a little bit between 16 and 70, they mightn't be in a buggy starting at age 40.

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Post ID: @gsc+1u6ZOrsq
Imagine being unable to control your weight while expecting others to respect you and your decisions?

Imagine that not all weight issues are caused by eating. Having disabilities that prevent adequate exercise and getting older causing your metabolism to slow down and burn less calories equals weight gain. Even w/o disabilities, as people get older they are unable to exercise as much and tend to gain weight. Don't judge people just by their size.

What it has to do with, is leadership by example. The manager's blatant lack of basic dietary discipline completely detracts from being a leadership example. How can someone take guidance seriously, when that person giving the guidance can't control their own obvious gluttony; especially at group lunches and dinners?

Any time the company is paying for dinner at nice places I don't normally eat at, sure I'll take advantage of a big meal and a dessert on the company dime. Doesn't mean that I eat that way at home every meal. As far as pizza goes, I'd bet you eat more than I do as I don't like pizza. Stop being an "ablest" entitled pr_ck.

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Post ID: @esy+1u6ZOrsq

If someone downvoting this could detail as to why the self-indulgence in pizza is not a hindrance on the manager's performance messaging, please add. I like him as a person, but just cannot respect the message of "expected work discipline" when given over his third plate of ribs and mashed potatoes, at dinner.

The demonstration of discipline, or lack there of, was ironic.

Good guy though. Good BBQ too.

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What it has to do with, is leadership by example. The manager's blatant lack of basic dietary discipline completely detracts from being a leadership example. How can someone take guidance seriously, when that person giving the guidance can't control their own obvious gluttony; especially at group lunches and dinners?

Sometimes the truth is not fun to hear. If a person wants to be this way, fine; but the lack of self-discipline, in this case, completely defers from any attempted leadership guidance.

Tough message. Good person though.

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Post ID: @wfq+1u6ZOrsq

If you don't fit a DEI profile and you didn't go through CSAP, you will be on the chopping block as long as Fran is running the place

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Post ID: @qot+1u6ZOrsq

I personally find "stinky pizza-addicted" managers to be the worst. Imagine being unable to control your weight while expecting others to respect you and your decisions?

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Post ID: @epb+1u6ZOrsq
eighty pound overweight and stinky pizza-addicted f@t-@ss "manager"; who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

O...k? What does that have to do with Cisco. Do you work for Sysco, maybe?

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Post ID: @nor+1u6ZOrsq

It would be really difficult not to laugh while getting performance feedback from my eighty pound overweight and stinky pizza-addicted f@t-@ss "manager"; who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

My 360 feedback to him would be: skip lunch. Perpetually.

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Post ID: @hme+1u6ZOrsq

Directors and VPs are taking advantage of the constant layoffs to get rid of unwanted critics, labeling them as ‘bad team players.’ A prime example of this is in the EMEA region, where all the Directors, VPs, and GMs are su-king up to OT.

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Post ID: @pin+1u6ZOrsq

Layoffs designed by Chuck and for Chuck to fatten his wallet

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