I’m in TAC and fairly certain I’ll be affected by this LR. I’m considering taking a leave of absence to prolong the inevitable and give myself more time to job search. I’m feeling quite stressed, and it’s impacting my day-to-day life, so this break would be essential for my mental health. If I go on leave, will they lay me off during my leave, or wait until I’m back?
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Statements about the TAC in RTP and Richardson sites being all let go this LR is unfounded and not possible volume wise. There is no indication of other sites even being remotely ready to take the volume the US sites handle.
I appreciate this forum, but unfounded statements like this devalue what this place offers.
Yeah we are done if US TAC goes. Meraki still has a lot of TAC based out of Chicago. I could totally see part of the layoff delay being a shift in strategy with JD being moved out and J2 coming in.
We are so cooked if we get rid of all the US TAC teams...
The remainder of TAC in California was let go in February. RTP and Richardson are the last two locations in the US. With the exception of some high-touch TAC teams with government contracts that require US citizenship, the rest of TAC will probably be let go on 9/16. Mexico will likely be the main location for TAC engineers, who are Cisco employees. Costa Rica is where the outsourced TAC engineers will be.
I think we all know that they just aren't moving people to different states but the question is whether or not they are planning on off shoring all of TAC OR just the most expensive US TAC teams.
TAC engineer, it might be time to pursue a new career route.
Sorry you are left waiting to find out if you are LR'd or not.
Hunger games at Cisco are lame.
TAC is moving to low cost areas. That doesn't mean between Texas and California, that means out of the US.
hello?
Start taking Spanish lessons and buy plane ticket to Mexico
I feel the message from ELT is clear - we don’t care about you guys and you refuse to get the message! So live in this toxic environment, and if you don’t like it, finally take the hint and leave on your own and save us future severances! Next year they’ll buy another best place to work in India, Mexico , Poland and so on and use that to hire talent.
The worst part - and I hope someone can leak it to the media, is how Fran said cisco offers mental health counseling after creating this situation!!
good luck with that, you think HR doesnt have a counter to the scam you trying to pull, just pull back from work, act like every other genz and just shrug, dont care and do terrible work, you might get a promotion.
They'll be offering people to move to Mexico if they want to
They said that the TAC is what used to differentiate Cisco from our competitors, yet they're impacting TAC? How stupid is that?
I guess they're getting rid of TAC workers in high cost areas only to rehire in low cost areas. I recall when Cisco did the same in '08, but with SJC jobs instead of a BU. They cut jobs in SJC and opened the same jobs in RTP. I had a few co-workers who offered to just relocate instead of being LR'd. In those few cases, they decided that their skills were critical enough to relocate them as a lateral move and keep the SJC wage in RTP (supposedly they kept the same wages, but I can't prove that).
TACs is hard work. Have to do real work in TAC not sitting around on golf course all day like sales do talking BS all day. Sales big part of problems at Cisco. Sales are BS has-been guys.
I'm curious if the TAC moves will just involve high cost of living centers in the US. I know pay dramatically differs between TACs in places like California vs. Texas. Would they layoff from all teams/location equally?
It depends. Which location are you in for TAC (?) — there are dramatically different plans for each...
Hello fellow TCE. From what I've read, it seems they will just wait until your return. However, I don't think that you will buy more time that way, at least not in the US.
But honestly, is it that helpful to avoid the inevitable? On Sept 16th by the time you're off shift, you'll know either way.
If you're LRed, you'll be given 6 months of pay, which is a good amount of time to find something else. During those 6 months, work on job applications full time. He-l, start them now over the weekend if you can.
If you're not LRed, focus on getting out of here. That's what I'm doing. I have only been here two years and I don't want constant layoff stress - it's just not for me. Others seem to do fine with it and good for them, but not me.
If it's legal for them to do so during your LOA and you are on the LR list, they absolutely will.
God bless the TAC teams. Cisco should support you better.