Can they deny a recording? Can you tell them you want this for your lawyer?
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The long response below was most obviously from a Cisco attorney. They don’t want ANY actual evidence of wrongdoing — so they are going to scare the cr-p out of you for not recording the conversation. Cisco is a financial organization propped up by lawyers, at the end of the day.
If you recorded it, at least you could then transcribe it into a document word for word. You could then just delete the recording. The words they use when they fire you are important.
One should check the legality of recording.
However, a recording helps if your manager indicates you were laid off improperly. If so, the thing to do would be to quote him exactly and then include it in an email immediately after the meeting to document the discussion in the meeting. Without the recordings, any bad info can easily slip passed you. This way you could use the email for evidence instead of the recording which may be illegal.
As others mentioned, this is almost always moot. Your manager will just give you the scripted, legal speech.
You can record any conversation you are part of
Bad, bad advice. Check your local laws. I know of jurisdictions where recording any other person is jail time.
Unfortunately, this is an area I've had some experience in lately due to other legal issues (federal/state wiretapping).
There are at least three things to consider: 1) your state, 2) the other state of the other parties, and 3) the state of jurisdiction for the court to accept it as evidence. Federally, consent is “one party” (hence the Michael Cohen/Trump thing). Each state has their own regulations regarding one-party, or two-party (all parties) consent. If you don’t follow the regulation for that state, it may (or may not) open you to civil and criminal liabilities.
As stated earlier by someone, you could tell them they’re being recorded. This is good advice, but I wouldn’t give a reason as it could limit your intent and may even void it as evidence. Courts know people respond very differently when being recorded and when they think they aren’t. Just tell them you’re recording the conversation. Unless they say they do not consent (they continue talking), then they have implied consent to the recording, so you’re covered. You don’t need them to say “Yes, that’s fine.” You just need to make sure they had a clear opportunity to hear it and the notification was reasonable.
Now, the next part… even if you get to court, good chance they won’t play it, even if it has material evidence of some kind. Why? It needs to be clear to the court who the parties are on the recording. Is it really XYZ person? Even if it “sounds” like them, that’s just simply not good enough, especially in the world of AI. Truth is, having another witness is stronger than a recording as they can also testify to the person’s identity. They can just say “this is not me” and the evidence goes poof, basically. You need a way to pin that down.
At the end of the day, for this issue, it’s just not worth it. Don’t invite a lawyer to these conversations, either. If an attorney shows up, the call will stop, you’ll get a pretty certified letter in the mail (along with your attorney of record), and potentially you’ll get sued right away. Maybe extreme, but if there’s a risk of a lawsuit, Cisco is going to preempt it and be sure to get into a jurisdiction of their choice. In the end, it may be alright, but you’ll be forced into mediation or arbitration (not a full court case).
They are going to read the script written legally by the HR and legal team and i guess no questions to ask. Then will say send email to HR for any questions
Recording is of no use. Participants names are masked with Ids
In certain states you can record without consent
If you reside in a state that allows 1 way conversation recording - then you are covered legally. If you aren't - go ahead anyway and share it w/your lawyer if you have one. What's the point?
You can say something like "I'm recording this call so I don't miss anything". Puts them on notice that they are being recorded. Either way, record the call. You never know.
Nope don't say anything, you do not need to
call them from your hone (join webex from your desk with audio call in)
have a software to record calls on your cell
put the cell on speaker
Don't just record conversations without consent of parties. Please be sure you understand the federal wiretapping laws and get consent before just recording conversations, even over webex. In California, both parties (or all parties) must consent to being recorded.
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You can record any conversation you are part of
You can not overhear and record conversations you are not part of and you are not invited to. Those can not be used in court.
Michael Cohen recorded Trump you mo--n, An he did not ask for consent
It is called one part consent
It’s not only a networking company it’s THE lay off company . Poorly planned and managed . But they have planned paperwork and steps required throughly . Would be hard to go against them.
You can say something like "I'm recording this call so I don't miss anything". Puts them on notice that they are being recorded. Either way, record the call. You never know.
It's definitely an internal process issue and a well written employment contract will likely prevent you from keeping a copy of it. You should have already gone to a lawyer with your employment contract along with a lawyer who knows the law in whatever state that contract says conflicts will be resolved.
Calm down.
You can record it but I think you'll be disappointed. Your manager will tell you nothing other than you're being let go. You can try to engage them but they won't answer your questions. They'll send you an email with a session link - that is already recorded - Telling you the scope of the separation agreement.
You're "attorney" will have nothing to sue Cisco about. But nice try.
If you haven't already been working with a labor attorney and, you don't have a ledger with years of dates and times of harassment - ONLY if you are in a protected class (age, religion, race, gender and/or s-xual orientation) - showing the trend. Also demonstrating action YOU took to work with Cisco to resolve the harassment where Cisco failed, you don't have a case for cr@p.
Just sign the agreement and go on you're way.
Don't just record conversations without consent of parties. Please be sure you understand the federal wiretapping laws and get consent before just recording conversations, even over webex. In California, both parties (or all parties) must consent to being recorded.
Just record it.
And as posted in another thread here. The letter you sign to get your severance says you won’t sue.
So if you want to throw away your severance by bringing in the lawyers go for it . . . . At your own risk
ngl whenever anyone says "my lawer will..." it means they have no laweyr and are all bark no bite
either you already havr an attorney and they are already present on the call, or you dont at all