Thread regarding Ford layoffs

GTH today

Did anyone watch the GTH with our beloved leaders? Specially the guy at the end with his questions? Farley and friends looked like deer in headlights. His cds was probably deactivated after that

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Post ID: @OP+1ux96ilu

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I feel for the guy. He and his teammates likely had been communicating concerns repeatedly to their LL6 and LL5. Somewhere in the reporting structure concerns were suppressed and sunshine and rainbows reported upwards. He likely is just realizing that FMC is an applause only culture and that he needs to seek employment elsewhere if he cares about quality and durability.

On the senior leadership side they are accepting the word of their leadership tree, which they know full well is suppressing bad news. As long as they have their scapegoats lined up and have plausible deniability for bad decisions they are good. BTW anyone else see JF on Bloomberg weekend report talking about company culture? LMAO

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Post ID: @7fgu+1ux96ilu

I'm sure a powertrain engineer asked the same question at GM in the mid to late 70s when they took a gasoline 350 small block and converted it to run on diesel....despite protests from the engineering side. The marketers won out, the diesel engine was launched and the rest was history....of a horror story.

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Post ID: @5laz+1ux96ilu

Some inconsiderate coworker scheduled a meeting during the town hall so I missed it. And curiously, this is the first one that the full towen hall was not posted in its entirety. What gives?

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Post ID: @5ixo+1ux96ilu

The thing that bothered me about the response to the man who asked the question at the GTH is why didn’t any of the leaders just say something to him such as, “If you can stay here a bit longer, let’s discuss your issue further once the GTH has ended.”

I feel that would have been a much better response and that it would have shown compassion and that our leadership cares about the issues that are being raised.

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Post ID: @5iae+1ux96ilu

Sounds like the braintrust has another DPS type project in the works.

The Ford playbook:
An idea is cooked up and pitched by a terrible supplier or engineering services provider, approved based on faulty simulation data, over promises, difficult to manufactur, made at a greenfield location with a brand new workforce, unrealistic launch timing, no backup technology plan, costs double initially estimated, TVMs will starting rolling in 90 days after launch, and will cost billions in warranty.

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Post ID: @5mun+1ux96ilu

If the information was confidential, he would have known about it being so and not said anything. But hey, what can a GSR do when they see unwise projects moving forward? Put it on blast at the GTH.

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Post ID: @3bgu+1ux96ilu

Farley and friends were not wearing their headsets and could not discuss the issue amongst themselves. Hence their deer in headlights reaction.

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Post ID: @3cut+1ux96ilu

It sounds to me like a concerned employee is trying to understand why marketing management is pushing hard to implement another "the writing is on the wall" engine recall. It took guts to stand up like that.

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Post ID: @3zcu+1ux96ilu

So sounds like an employee shared confidential and proprietary power train info in a public town hall meeting which is further disseminated to the public via this website.

You have to be discreet and more politically adept.

He’s cooked. I bet his CDS I’d does not work today.

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Post ID: @3eec+1ux96ilu

The guy asked a good question. He seemed genuinely concerned for the company and wanted to understand why management were going in a direction that did not make sense.

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Post ID: @1klv+1ux96ilu

The person asking the question was from powertrain and was mainly wanting to know or better understand managements push to roll out a new elliptical cylinder (super efficient) engine which paired with a hybrid powertrain would have a ~15 to 20% fuel mileage improvement from current hybrid tech. Apparently, there has been pushback from the development team due to the piston ring manufacturing issues and concerns for long term durability. My understanding is the elliptical cylinder geometry requires advanced manufacturing processes and has some quality / defect concerns for long term usage. The group was strongly advising against using the elliptical cylinder design but to no avail as marketing is apparently more important than engine issues.

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Post ID: @1xvx+1ux96ilu

@1gok+1ux96ilu "Anyone can provide summary of what was said and what the response was?"

His comments/questions weren't that controversial, it was the manner in which he delviered them. As someone ponted out, " it was more of a rant. And he was completely unfocused." and wouldn't stop even after the management team tried to stop him.

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Post ID: @1vgg+1ux96ilu

Anyone can provide summary of what was said and what the response was?

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Post ID: @1gok+1ux96ilu

I could not understand the question, but I wish the Comms person had reacted differently. The person asking the question seemed genuinely frustrated, and that to me signals that he still cares to some extent.

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Post ID: @1yfr+1ux96ilu

"it was more of a rant. And he was completely unfocused."

Same could be said of all the leaders at the GTH as well.

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Post ID: @1kje+1ux96ilu

To be fair, the guy asking the question was extremely difficult to understand. I don't know that he even had a question- it was more of a rant. And he was completely unfocused.

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Post ID: @1mdl+1ux96ilu

I’m wondering if the replay version is edited for that part….

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Post ID: @1eyi+1ux96ilu

What was the question?

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Post ID: @1ckc+1ux96ilu

That question (and the one about the bathroom at MAP a year or two ago) are the only questions in the TH that I am sure were unscripted.

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Post ID: @vyn+1ux96ilu

yea, the exchange with the guy at the end was hilarious!

JF and team with yet another round of rambling non-sense trying to put the blame of poor quality and poor strategy on GRSs rather than themselves. We need a stand up leader like Lions' Dan Campbell who admitted he blew the game this past weekend. Had to chuckle when JF mentioned "what's your why?" because of the earlier Layoff thread poking fun at it.

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