If someone didn’t do their job, that’s on managers. I can bet you that the same percentage of people slack in the office and at home. RTO/hybrid has been introduced for one reason only, and that’s attrition. With a need for direct, creepy kind of control and the potential to pit people against each other sprinkled in.
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I like working at the office over working from home. But let’s not pretend 2 hours of my 9 hour day is dealing with people who want to poke their head in and ask me how my dog is doing or sitting in a meeting that could have been resolved in an email. Don’t get me started on the interruptions of the “did you stretch your fingertips” that pause my computer and keep me out of hyper-focus mode.
In the current environment….you have zero hope to continue to WFH. In fact if you can work from home so well, that same job can be done for pennies on the dollar on the other side of the world. To argue that you have to be delusional. They already track badging, and because people can’t come in 3 days, I bet everyone will have in office requirements tied to PMP. Quit with the idea the you have “the right” or moral position to WFH.
People who prefer WFH have the same mentality as people who put in only 40 hours a week before Covid. They don’t want to put in any extra time to get the job done. Fire all of the WFH people and let them apply to get their jobs back.
WFH should end now. It was just a temporary solution to the Covid crisis. Grow up and get back to work at the office you antisocial people.
No, you can't blame every manager out there for all of the B-$hiting on the clock employees (not really)under their watch during WFH. That's a cop-out and you know it. There's no way every manager can keep track of every wfh employee because they're at home, duh. That's classic passing the blame to someone else, always someone else's fault, never yours.
If a manager isn’t holding his WFH teams accountable, that’s an easily fixable problem that doesn’t require bringing everyone into the office so they can be babysat
If the manager doesn’t know enough to sniff out people on the team bullsh-tting their production then they shouldn’t be a manager
They are not slackers but their time is always suspect.
I recently experienced being in the office with a good portion of my team with our leader - all i can tell you is that the productivity I saw was night and day. We are in the whiteboard solving problems and some of my team became accountable by having to share what they are working on in his cube. Cross collaboration, everyone was working and all and I felt the company was able to get a lot from us in that 2 days...
Compared to WFM where after a meeting you dont know if one of the team members left his house to do errands and buy groceries, walk the dog, etc. - lets be honest. Many people do that all the time.
@1zag+1vXTtRK0 Yes, some jobs can't be done remotely. You knew that when you signed up for the role.
Having people in the office doesn't help your situation, it's just jealousy fueled suffer-sharing.
We appreciate your contribution at an asset, but having office staff that have never even seen a pumping unit, sit in an office doesn't add any value.
Posters like @2eyd don’t have the maturity and discipline to WFH, and therefore refuse to believe that anyone else does.
I bet he’s useless in the office too.
@2eyd -- Don't know what you're talking about. I am more productive on the average day WFH than at the office. Fewer interruptions and less time wasted commuting. Going into the office a few days a week is good for seeing people face-to-face, but for actually knocking out substantive work product, I get way more done in my own study.
I am a professional adult. I don't need someone watching over my shoulder for "oversight" to be responsible for doing my job.
Oh, c'mon, OP. No one can say with a straight face that as much gets done WFH as in the office. There's no oversight WFH, and look back in these archives, too many stories of people working 2nd jobs on Chevron time and having their 6-yr olds pushing the mouse around to look like their "busy". There's no discipline WFH, and people took full advantage of it.
MN lying (or lying by omission)? What a shocker! There is zero integrity with these people. Weasel is a good word to describe them.
It's not bull$hit at all. It's 100% a fact. Get over yourself. The secret is out, but it's never really been a big secret. you should know that. The company has pretty much just been allowing people to slack since Covid and simply not addressing it. The chickens have come home to roost is all. You come home too, or find another job.
It is really not about WFH or RTO productivity comparison, it is about using their tools to let people go on their own instead of paying severance package, they just want to make it cheaper for the company.
@1zag the reason field people often bare the brunt of layoffs is because your job is directly tied to a rig. If the rig(s) you're work on get laid-down, there goes your job. That being said, no one is negating the field personnel work. There are different jobs that have different requirements. That's all.
Let’s not forget what truly keeps this company running: our operations teams out in the field, working 12+ hour days to produce the oil that powers everything we do. They are the backbone of this business showing up, doing the hard work without complaint, and yet often bearing the brunt of layoffs. Meanwhile, working from home doesn’t drill wells or make oil magically appear. If you’re truly invested in this company’s success, it’s time to step up and show up where it matters back in the office and stop complaining!
MN is a complete weasel for lying in the recent OPG Townhall about changes to the hybrid schedule when asked He said they dont envision any significant changes only some tweaks. What a PoS!
Wfh has been extremely popular and majority prefer it. That’s why the topic comes up at every townhall. They simply don’t care. It’s a good excuse reduce headcount without paying severance.
Because it is BS. Lol. Stop it, just stop. Hahahha
They already know exactly how productive you are at home and have for some time. They have already admitted that every input via CVX interfaced device is put through AI Analytics to look for negative sediment in the company. Tracking productivly is actively monitored under the guise of intellectual property assurance. Doesn't matter how you feel, the company wants you back in the office. It's just matter of time.
“ If you can do your job in the office then it can still be done in an office in Bangalore. What's your point?”
Yes that is very true And if they can find someone in Bangalore to do it as well as me then the company should move my job there. I have worked with a lot of “high value centers” in India. Chevron is in for a rude awakening. Ask Exxon employees how well it has worked out for them.
As if coming in to the office protects our office jobs from being moved to India? That’s the stupidest argument of all against WFH. As if showing up in the office will trick managers into thinking it can only be done from the office
Unless you are at a physical asset (oilfield, refinery, ship) your office job can be done from another country too. Just because you show up to the office, doesn't mean your job can only be done in-person in the US... You aren't safe either.
@kmz+1vXTtRK0 Office folks have never been required to take time off to go to a Dr appointment....if you've been doing that, you're the fool.
OMG, my comments are getting downvoted so I need to make up some lame excuses like it's a big HR conspiracy. I just can't accept the idea that my comments are not popular with normal employees who know what having a job and being responsible implies.
If you can do your job in the office then it can still be done in an office in Bangalore. What's your point?
I love all the downvotes that any pro hybrid/WFH comment gets on this site. There’s either a bunch of HR people whose job it is to do that here or a lot of workers that hate their lives at home and want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
It is crazy to me how many people are focused on working from home when the company is in the process of offshoring jobs. If your job can be done from your home, it can also be done from India. Nuff Said……I would be parking my a$$ in a seat unless I was not concerned with my job being offshored.
No, not B.S. at all and many of you are in complete denial. There are a few mature adults who can take care of all necessary business at home and not be distracted or, rather, intentionally distracted or do other things while on the clock but they are few and far between. That's been the case for decades. If you don't want the job fine, I'm sure they'll find someone else. Keep up with the long of lame excuses for coming in. I'll get some popcorn.
Our boss says as long as we meet our goals, he doesn’t care if we are at the office, home or on a beach.
All about control and hoping you quit. They have to put butts in seats for the real estate deals they got on leases and tax ramifications. If I am a slacker I slack in every geography.
My in office days I don’t meet at 7 am with TCO or at 7 pm with India. In office days are 8-5 and that’s it.
My WFH days I usually have meetings from 7-4 and then again 7-9, and maybe a 30 minute lunch break but usually end up eating at my computer cuz I’m in the zone.
Company wants less production from me in exchange for my butt in a seat in the office I guess, so that’s what they’ll get. F ‘em.
RE: @kmz. I’m some1 who likes to go to office. Thinking though that people will have exactly 40 hours of work a week is very silly. They will either has less work than that, so they need 2 find other things to do, or they will have more and need to work overtime or not get work done.
At home u can get things done when u have a moment, freeing up time for when ur busy. Also no commute means you have more time. In office u fill those quiet times with chit chat and making busy work which drags other people down.
I can't troubleshoot a problem at the plant from my monitor at home, I have to smell and hear the equipment. I'd have a little more empathy for all of us out there keeping the lights on in your office towers :)
This is like denial in written format. There are people that workout, grocery shop, go to daytime doctor’s appointments, take pets to veterinary appointments all during the 8-5 “workday”. If you aren’t busy enough to have to request and use scheduled time off for things like a doctor’s appointment and or doing “life”outside of work hours you are lucky to have a job. Covid/WFH has proven no one is special. Being employed still means you have to take your own time to drive into and back home from work, spend your gas money, pay for parking and work 8-5. Use approved time off if you need to be out of the office during business hours and handle “life” like workouts and grocery shopping outside of business hours. No, working at 7pm one night here and there or on Sunday night isn’t justification for not working 8-5. And people are surprised the company feels they can cut thousands of jobs and people are shocked. If your just here for money and do the least you’re the first to go.
I absolutely get less done in the office. I chit chat. I go to the gym. 90 minutes lunches. Out early to beat traffic.
Everyone I have talked to says they’re at least twice as productive at home. Whenever I go to the office I know that I’m only going to accomplish one task. Most of the time is wasted on meetings, drive by conversations, and water cooler drivel.
Chevron leadership decisions start to make sense when you realize their goal is demoralization.
I am arguably more effective at home, LOL
Shhhh OP you can’t speak facts. The simpleton normies don’t understand what it’s like. Get your a-s back in office to sit on Teams calls with ppl from different time zones and share germs with everyone. For our real estate portf—- er, I mean, for in-person collaboration!!! Which ENGINE totally compliments!!! My Lord, how we have fallen. RIP Chevron frfrfr